Oh, it's not reviewers and reddit that made Intel drop this idea. In fact Debian devs straight out said they refuse to publish this microcode update... and that means no patches to a SHITLOAD of companies and government agencies all over the world:
Heck, depending on how it would be interpreted it would be illegal to use monitoring software on servers. As in - any half decent company must be using something to measure CPU load over time. Now, they would also install this microcode update and see it possibly CHANGING from the original data. It could even make them consider having to buy additional servers if the load increased too much. That's the very definition of "benchmarking".
Intel dropped a ball on that one alright and could possibly find itself under a rain of lawsuits since this would effectively make system administration not compliant with their license terms, that's ONE HELL of a fuck up to fight bad reviews.
noo dude get the gigabyte z390 aorus pro for about 200$ the board u wanna buy is absolute garbage
Intel doesnt make that cpu anymore, its not up to Intel, ask retailers.
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And to answer it, because people pay for it for upgrades.
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For most things the 3600 is a sidegrade from a 7700k, but yeah id get the 3600 instead.
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If I could make 1 suggestion.. If you go the ryzen route.. Literally another 40$ gets you a 1700x and board if your close to a microcenter. Same board.. 1700x.. 8 cores instead of 6.. Just throwing it out there..
Intel Q3 2020 Earnings Call:
> Ice Lake end of year, beginning to ramp early next year, a very -- in our mind, a very attractive and enhanced feature set for Sapphire Rapids at the end of the year, kind of four quarters later, which is kind of the road map that we've laid out for our customers over the course of the last 18 months.
Intel Q4 2020 Earnings Call:
> We will qualify Alder Lake desktop and notebook for production and begin our volume ramp in the second half of '21, and we expect production qualification of Sapphire Rapids at the end of 2021.
Intel Q1 2021 Earnings Call:
> In the data center, we will follow the strong ramp of Ice Lake with Sapphire Rapids, which is scheduled to reach production around the end of this year, and ramp in the first half of 2022.
Messaging over time seems pretty consistent to me-PRQ in Q4, ramp in 2022. Where's the delay, exactly?
Interesting. I have a brand new commercial 7120P, but mine has a smaller Intel logo with "Xeon Phi Coprocessor" written underneath it, and no fan hole. I was given it by Intel since I helped design it.
Edit: This: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Xeon-Phi-7120P-Coprocessor/dp/B00FKG9R2Q
>build bɪld verb 1. construct (something) by putting parts or material together. "the ironworks were built in 1736" synonyms: construct, erect, put up, assemble, set up, raise
Seems like English is not your primary language, it's OK, we all make mistakes. hint: look at the word "parts" and see synonyms.
> Isn’t geekbench basically a browsing benchmark tool?
No. It is a collection of commonly used software libraries (e.g. libjpeg, LZMA, SQLlite) and algorithms (fft, raytracing, etc).
https://www.geekbench.com/doc/geekbench4-cpu-workloads.pdf
>I wish cinebench could be loaded on iPads for better results
Cinebench is a much less useful benchmark. It is just a single, mostly obsolete program. The advantage of using multiple, widely used libraries is that you get a more representative result.
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B005404P9I
Works for me. Maybe they're acting off similar info as Newegg, and they're getting multiple thousand units on Friday. Either this is a paper launch... or it it's just delayed a week. We'll know Friday.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/04/26/this-sounds-like-disastrous-news-for-intel-corp.aspx
Looks like 10nm might not be ready until 2h 2019. Not good news for intel being that AMD 7nm announced High Volume production this week.
Get ready for 14nm++++++
>girls with laptops for school
Do boys not use laptops for school?
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A know a few people that have been picking up those cheap AMD Ryzen/Vega laptops with the RX560. I wonder how those report with a Vega iGPU and a dedicated discrete GPU. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M9SMWMS/
Still depends on your specific workload.The 3600 is a solid choice but overall I would recommend the R7s especially the 2700 for only $186. And if your budget allows get the 3700x it's definitely worth it . Again check the benchmarks for your specific workload.
I looked everywhere but I cannot find Vega 64 cards below $540 (even low end ones are very expensive), but I can easily find high end GTX 1080 for $430 (EVGA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IA9HKGE/?tag=pcpapi-20&pldnSite=1. Anyway saying that currently Vega 64 is priced better than a GTX 1080 goes against reality.
Also I do not blame AMD (because I do not care to do so, I accept things as they are, not as they should be) and I 100% agree with you, Vega is the best mining card out there and for that exact reason it becomes too expensive for purchase by gamers.
Glad your 2700x is working great! Might be the first gen having these issues.
I am not joking. (last two patches on pubg) gave me horrible performance. Other games would run ok.
My fps was max 240fps with the ryzen 1700x. Mostly in between 100 - 144. In large cities like yasnaya it would go as low as 60FPS. I always checked with my squad-mates when having bad performance, and they were all running fine (8700k + 1080ti). I was running 1700x + 2080TI. Technically i should not experience that low performance. Even tho i was pretty cpu limited at my resolution (3840 x 1080).
The guy on the lower right is me -> https://tapas.io/episode/1198445
Big GPU length limitation is the only downside for an ITX case with this one. Mid-sized air coolers usually fit, full sized PSU, all the sides come off for easy access everywhere.
Best used with M.2 only for drives, way less wire clutter that way.
I got some cute little BeQuiet fans for the little 80mm dual rear exhaust setup myself.
I was doing it off memory. maybe the prices adjusted I've been wrong.
Are the CPUs at MSRP yet? I used MSRP to be "fair". https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684I78700K-Core-i7-8700K-Processor/dp/B07598VZR8
Right now Amazon is showing out of stock and priced above MSRP...
Should I just adjust the CP up $30 and the board down $30?
CPU's don't do audio. Usually it is onboard the motherboard if it has onboard sound. If you don't know what system/motherboard you have than download cpuz to see what the motherboard is.
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Maybe this will brings you to your answer..
Prime will always give you very fake (unrealistic) temperatures if you run AVX + small FTT with size set to 16 or w/e it was (don't remember)
Try a CPU heavy game like Battlefield (1 or V) to see what your absolute maximum & realistic CPU temps will ever look like. Battlefield also finds unstable OC very quickly. So does Realbench. You don't really need Prime95. In fact, you can kill your motherboard if it doesn't have proper cooling. It can get really hot from that fake stress.
If you still get the same temps, check what voltage the CPU is running at. Maybe it's your cooler. I'm not familiar with the one you have. If you want a good AIO, get this https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07XT8X6J7
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07VRLBXLR?tag=jeuxvideocom-21#customerReviews
This link has the better ram. The cas latency is lower than the other kit while maintaining the same frequency and voltage. Lower cas latency means lower latency, which is better.
Make sure to take price into consideration and good luck!
It’s out of date info, they’ve removed the soft floor for release (but opened it for insiders):
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
“In the updated documentation, Microsoft has removed the reference to a “hard floor” for Windows 11 that would’ve allowed PCs with TPM 1.2 to still install the new OS.”
The processor is actually great at throttling such that it doesn't overheat, so you might not notice it. You can use HWINFO to check if you're actually throttling at any given moment :)
> Asus Rog Dominus
Asus Rog Dominus Rex? You used Raptor DNA?
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Dominus-Performance-Motherboard-Aquantia/dp/B07NQD5X5T#customerReviews
About $1800
And looks like it had a bad bug when it came out last year, if you read the reviews about it needing to be 30 degrees C before it would boot.
Ive used this tool personally and it worked a treat, $12. Im also EU based.
So even with the kryonaut etc.. youre looking at $40. Im not even going to go into the fact that the difference between kryonaut and Arctic MX/NT-H1 is so small not to make a significant real world difference.
So yeah, $80? Please. Youre cherry picking. We can all cherry pick the highest priced goods to support our claim.
I stick by my original statement; your argument is as leaky as a sieve.
Congrats. I have pretty much the same type of system. Except, I have 3600mhz, 512Gig NVME m.2, and 850w evga.
But, I have the same chip and Mobo as yours. 10700k is a beast of a chip. I am at 5.2ghz on all cores 1.32v as my AVG, not going over 55c.
I assume you are using your laptop as a second screen along with your monitor, so a stand like this might help with alignment and making more mouse room so you can get a mousepad https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08FCFWCCK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_K0CFA20J4V585YGVV1A1?psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086MW76F8?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
You can buy a brand new LGA1200 Celeron if you wanted(literally no reason to because even the pentium are only a few more dollars)
Uh, Broadwell is 100% better. Pentium 4 is soooo old. A 5200U scores tons higher seen here than the Pentium 4 3.0.
Basically, expect something a lot faster.
if they only turned on the instance for the test and then shut it off as soon as it was finished, probably not much. AWS on-demand pricing for that instance is only $3.06/hr.
If you don't get bluescreens or errors in P95 then it's fine. The x264 test is recommended to be run at 16 threads (regardless of core count I'm told), normal priority or above normal, for however many loops you feel comfortable running. And most people try to go as low as they can on voltage once they hit a clockspeed they like. I'm a lazy fuck so once I find a voltage I'm comfy with temps at, as long as it's under 1.40VCore for 24/7 use it's fine.
The real reason people use P95 is because of mainly two things:
A) It runs hot as fuck and is a good way to check your cooler's performance for issues like bad thermal paste application or dead/bad AIO, etc.
B) If your OC is on the edge of stability, with minor problems, P95 will error out without BSODing you.
That's basically it.
CPU-Z is good for validating it's running at what you set, but use monitoring sw like HWinfo64 is commonly recommended, and has my own recommendation behind it as well.
90C is my personal limit for benching. If it's solid above 90C like 93-95C during the entirety of the test then I'll back it off. >95C gets me backing it off immediately.
If you decide you want to delid and want no frills service, https://siliconlottery.com is a great resource for that. $45 USD to delid your 8086K only, with no binning (Determines the maximum OC potential of your chip).
As far as trying to cut your temps, you do you. It's seemingly stable where it's at, you can leave it and be lazy like I would, or you can try to trim the voltage a bit more. :P
> Z390 Aorus Elite pro
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_z390-aorus-elite_v3_e.pdf
Chapter 2, page 22/48
So: reboot your PC, and
>To access the BIOS Setup program, press the <Delete> key during the POST when the power is turned on
Page 27
XMP
Look for the 3200 ghz profile.
Click it/choose it.
Go to "Save and Exit", to save, and exit out of BIOS, do that, let it continue booting.
If you don't have something like CPU-z, get it to check and make sure it got set at 3200.
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Free.
Have fun!
You can just jumper the power switch pins on the PSU with a piece of wire to turn it on, no need to attach a zombie PC to it.
Or get fancy and use an adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Add2PSU-Multiple-Adapter-Starter-Extender/dp/B077RGRTSG
ETA: Less fiddly inline cable style, just splits off the two power switch sense wires so both turn on at the same time, without the SATA powered relay.
This is also a very very good book:
https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Machine-Introduction-Microprocessors-Architecture/dp/1593276680
Someone in S.korea asked Intel official and They said that only 100 retail boxes of Coffelake was released at S.Korea and We'll get enough supplies By 2017 December or 2018 January.
Due to unavailability in S.Korea, 8700K's price is skyrocketing toward 430~600 USD. What's making worse is that retailer in S.Korea is selling them only by expensive combo bundle.
I think, at this point, It's tough to get one in S.Korea. If you can use freight forwarder in Japan, You should try Amazon japan pre-order at below link(You have to use freight forwarder because they don't ship directly to S.Korea).
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07598VZR8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
650w will be plenty.
I got an email from seasonic with the SSR-750x is going on sale for $60 on Amazon on 11/20-25.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073GWKDVM/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_WCeeAb63NTZPN
Likely other deals with BF around the corner.
The N3540/N3700 are basically super low power CPUs, they have a TDP of only 6-7 watts.
I have an N3700 laptop, it never gets above lukewarm at the most and has very very little 3D performance. It's great for browsing, netflix, and typing shit up. That's about it though.
If you want to play any sort of games, the i3 is far better.
edit: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2551&cmp[]=2513&cmp[]=2408 - direct comparison
Correct. icomp 1.0 index of 1000 is the Pentium 120MHZ http://www.wikiwand.com/en/ICOMP_(index)
Or the OP could just peel the sticker off of it, or look up the S-spec on the metal cap on the back of it.
Cool! Just spotted this out in the wild: z270
I'm probably going to wait to buy a motherboard when I can actually see the specs... lol But I am in dire need of an i7. My i5 bottlenecks my GTX 1080 in Battlefield One which in my opinion is kind of stupid and shouldn't be happening. But I suppose these days games are using more CPU than before. I really want to get this processor on the day of release so I can slap it into my h170 motherboard, I can wait a couple weeks for the z270 and cooling gear for overclocking. I just want that i7 now.
What is the name of your local shop? I was looking at stores like Microcenter and Fry's Electronics, I want to know as many stores that carry i7s as possible so that I can get the processor when it comes out. If you know of any other stores that carry these processors it would be helpful to know, thanks!
Comparing the specs using ARK: http://ark.intel.com/compare/59836,86348
The newer one has the same amount of cores, but note it has hyperthreading. They also both have the same amount of Cache. The newer one uses less than half the power of the older one.
Here's a comparison using PassMark's benchmarking: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=1095&cmp%5B%5D=2579
Here you can see that the actual performance of the 3825U is roughly 40% faster, and taking into account the roughly 57% less power usage, it's probably a good option.
Shockingly the new SkyLake CPU isn't their fastest consumer CPU. That crown still goes to the 4790K. The 6700K brings a lot to the table but Intel focused a lot of other things with the SkyLake line. iGPU, DDR4, Broadwell's 14nm, and the removal of the fully integrated voltage regulator were all really impressive feats but CPU IPC hasn't really changed.
Take a look at Single Thread Rating:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2275&cmp[]=2334&cmp[]=2565
Should use less power than the 4790K but with the much bigger iGPU it raised the TDP.
Yeah, Firefox on Linux doesn't support it either. I don't know of any web browsers that support hw accelerated video decoding out of the box on Linux, but if you really want to play YouTube in the background, maybe give the MiniTube app a try? Not sure if it uses hw accel or not, but it's worth a try.
Had time to sign up for a shoprunner trial to get 2 day shipping before I snagged one. This shoprunner trial worked for me(must be paypal user) https://slickdeals.net/f/10501348-paypal-members-get-2-year-shoprunner-membership-free
MSI AB will give you all the OSD temps you need.
https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner
Those temps do seem a little warm for that cooler. I would reapply paste and reseat cooler just to be sure.
It should be but it's unclear if that will continue to be the case. Intel is already 2 years late with 10nm.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/07/26/the-price-of-intel-corporations-10-nanometer-failu.aspx
There are currently 4 chips on 14nm though, Broadwell, and Sky, Kaby, and Coffee lakes. Broadwell is part of Haswell family though. Skylake family contains Sky, Kaby, Coffee, and Cannon Lakes.
One important problem that the core M runs into is its incredibly low TDP. While it will perform well at the start it can over heat quickly. Most reviews of core M systems mention that this throttling with prolonged use can get pretty annoying. This Anandtech review of the updated Yoga pro 3 does a good job of showing the difference. Compare the relatively long cinebench score with the other short duration cps. The amount of time that your computer puts load on the cpu matters a lot for core M.
cpubenchmark.net doesn't offer a lot of information about what exactly goes into the test and I am not going to buy it. This page doesn't say if it is a long or short duration benchmark so you can't be sure it encapsulates the problem.
It might give you a hard time, but if you disable the old machine it will activate the new one (there will be a list of PC's under your windows email) I had no issues going from 990fx to a z270 board, just had to fiddle with atcivation once or twice. Free version from 8.1 too. No issues.
Have your key on hand just in case. If you don't have it, you can extract it with a program found here
What do the figures say in this tool (as opposed to using the NZXT CAM which I don't trust very much).
The first thing you should do is download HWiNFO, standalone EXE works fine, run 'sensors only', you should see a list of power limit, thermal limit, all that fun stuff. If it's running, min value is 'no' and max value is 'yes' so if any one of them trips intermittently, it'll record a 'yes' value. The nifty thing: VRM throttling sends the same #PROCHOT signal through the SVID bus that the CPU does, so if your VRMs are overheating, you'll catch that with HWiNFO, since thermal throttling will get flagged even though cores are cold.
I highly doubt it's VRMs but with that you can rule those out, and you can rule power limit out, and if you can do that, then it's on to the BIOS settings.
windows 10 does support up to 2 cpus
windows 10 specs https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications
I am not sure if that page is accurate or if it changed for the new updates (v1809) but the Westmere EP is not listed, But neither is sandy bridge, and I just upgraded my pc from that and it was running win 10...
Pretty sure he is running both stock. His temps look surprisingly low so the Monitor overlay should be showing the active core clocks. 4.9 is the 5950x's boost clock after all.
This should be the overlay that he is using: https://fpsmon.com/en/
ShopBLT Has been around for a little while. I always look at resellerratings.com if i'm not sure --
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Bottom_Line_Telecommunications_15
9.24/10 - a few complaints in there, but 158 reviews and some of them date to 2005 or earlier, so I'd say legit.
They also have an A+ from the BBB, and here's another site with 238 reviews (although i've never heard of 'trustpilot' until today) : https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.shopblt.com
Thanks! It's a Lian Li LanCool 205 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DHZ2SW/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_fabc_X9B0J0GWG539TWNEF4KX?psc=1
They were I think $35 to $40 last year for prime day. I got the black but used some 100+ sandpaper on it, then wiped it down with rubbing alcohol, then some self etching primer maybe 2 coats. Then I used a Satin Red from rustoleum thats a 2 in 1 I like (maybe 3 coats). I also use a heat gun in between coats to totally dry the previous coat and get all the gasses out of that layer I can.
The red bar/cable router inside the case thats in the back is riveted in as well so I just drilled out the rivets with a drill bit then after I painted it just put some new rivets in.
Super fun little project. My favorite case I have seen anywhere now.
Be warned alot of the z590 motherboards disable the top m.2 slot when used with a 10th gen cpu. If you decide to go z490 this is a great mobo https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-Motherboard-Socket-Renewed/dp/B091T1S6TV/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=msi+unify+z490&qid=1623195432&sr=8-5
If you live by micro center they have 10850k cpus for 299
ID-COOLING SE-224-XT Black for $30. Best bang for the buck.
Thanks, It's just a theme with one product like anyone else does Asus builds.
Screen link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L6WT77H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_PR5WM4SX9JXKDM3Q1FQA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Another option to consider is a cheap gaming laptop.
A 10/11600k or 10/11400 desktop will cost you minimum $700 without a GPU. Using the iGPU of any of those will BARELY be 30 fps 1080p @ very low settings.
Meanwhile, a $700 laptop can EASILY pull 60+ fps @ 1080p high/med for most games these days. And then in a year if (and that's a huge IF) GPU prices come down and availability improves, you can just sell your laptop and put the proceeds towards a gaming desktop. Not to mention by then, a whole new generation of CPUs and GPUs will be available making 10th/11th gen parts even cheaper than they are now.
A good 212 alternative is the Vetroo V5, at $25 right now on Amazon. They're basically Scythe's "other" sub brand. The mount is also much less of a pain in the butt than the Hyper 212.
so this is the cooler.
Brand new build. No overclocking so you might be right about the vcore. I’ve never had to mess around with this before. The only thing I’ve changed is the fan speed. I increased the rpm at 60C all around.
I’ll have to check the thermal paste.
amazon search results, newegg search results, and then these 2:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684I78700K-Core-i7-8700K-Processor/dp/B07598VZR8/
No dice here. Here's an edited transcript of a chat I just had: > Me: Good afternoon - it has been almost 10 business days since I ordered the Intel BX80684I78700K 8th Gen Core i7-8700K Processor which showed as in-stock when purchased at launch on October 5th. I just want an update - whether it be "Intel messed up" or "We messed up" or whatever.
>> ...
> JM: Alright, I have checked my resources and I can see here that the item currently unavailable. That is why the item wasn't shipped yet and I'm so sorry for that., https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07598VZR8
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> JM: I'm so sorry for that, Derek.
> But no worries , once the order ships out you will be receiving an email confirmation.
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> Me: Thanks. Do you have any info on an ETA or where the issue occurred in product availability?
>> ...
> JM: I'm so sorry but we don't have the exact information regarding the date of release, because we are still waiting for the item from our distributor and once avail, we will ship the items immediately and you will be receiving an email confirmation.
>> ...
> Me: That's disappointing to hear. Hopefully Amazon can get an update soon, as Newegg has started filling their backordered items and there is some social media attention on Amazon's lack of updates: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments...(See full link)
>> ...
> JM: I totally understand you, Derek and I'm so sorry for that.
> No worries we will update you as soon as possible.
>> ...
Wow, it's slipped onto Amazon too, available with 1 day shipping. Really tempting -- but $425 when I already have an 8700k... EHHHH probably not happening. I do wonder how much I could get for the 8700k on Ebay though.
£399 from one seller on amazon who is probably wondering why he is selling a lot of cpus right now.
Have you looked into a capture card? The Avermedia Live Gamer HD2 takes the strain of streaming from your cpu and puts it on it. And it’s $120 right now on Amazon. Here
I have had an H100i, H80i, and an H105. Everyone of them got clogged within 5 years. Dissembling the heat sink and using about 40psi from my air compressor did the trick and then replacing the coolant with a coolant from amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008PA1G00/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_C1d0CbSTQJPYD
That said, 2 things. First MX4 absolutely sucks for 2 things. Laptops and delidded CPUs. MX4 is great for anything that doesn't exceed 90c. As soon as 90c is reached, it begins pumping out (drying up and losing thermal conductivity). I know this because I used it for the exact same thing on the exact same CPU. I'd get about 2 weeks of solid game changing temps and by 1-2 months, my temps were higher than with Intel's tim.
Second, you most likely did damage to something in there. If the pins look good on the mobo, it is damage to the internal structure of the CPU. When I was looking into delidding my 4790k, I ran into many places saying to not use a razor due to how close to the surface the tracing is. So, it is likely there is structure on the edge... I too used a vice. I just put 4 layers of towel on the grip side that touched the silicon of the CPU and it did well.
Lastly, you could give it a try to glue and clamp everything back together... I think Linus attempted something similar. It didn't work for him but, you may have better luck. You do already have the vice. lol
Depending on your budget the ASRock B365M-HDV is a great option https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B365M-PRO-VH-Motherboard-LGA1151/dp/B07TTPL5R2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ASRock+B365M-HDV&qid=1597251641&sr=8-2
I've got an MSI MEG Z490I Unify order at Amazon (Newegg didn't have the mITX version listed or I would have ordered with them), and it is, concerningly, showing "We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date."
You need your own cooler for the 10700K.
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 (top performing AIO), and the close performing II 280 seems to be out of stock eveywhere. Newegg has a listing for the 360 and 280 but OOS. Amazon's listing only goes up to the 280, both showing OOS.
Noctua NH-D15 (no offset, 2 fans) is OOS on both Amazon and Newegg, but arriving on Amazon on the 17th or so. I am assuming NE and Amazon both have the same supplier.
NH-D15S (offset for PCIE slots, 1 fan, can buy a second fan) is available on both sites.
Both Noctua versions are excellent for the 10700k, as they were for the 9900k. The 10900k needs a little more love.
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15S-Premium-Dual-Tower-Cooler/dp/B00XUVGLEU/
At the moment it's pretty hard to buy a lot of things right now.
You can't go wrong with a Seasonic Prime PX-1000 for a 10900k system (make sure you get this one, not the older one that is branded "Prime Ultra Platinum"--the old one has fewer spare PCIE cables and fewer ports). If it's in your budget you'll do well with it. I switched from an old Seasonic Platinum (2012 model) SS-1000XP to a Prime PX-1000 and the stronger +12v allowed my Vega64 to undervolt a little more (and on that card, every mv helps).
The problem is finding one that's in stock. I got mine on Newegg over a month ago but it's OOS there. Amazon is *ALSO* OOS on it but they are expecting a shipment on the 25th (AFTER the CPU's go live) :/
https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-PX-1000-Platinum-High-Performance-SSR-1000PD/dp/B07XG1QNSR/
Arctic Clean Thermal Remover. This stuff dissolves TIM, it’s all I ever use. I’ve used it to get TIM out of all kinds of places. This stuff plus the surface purifier is wayyyyy better than alcohol.
Weird, as in "why is it so close, if not better than, your 420?
The 280 is said to be only within a couple of degrees of the 420 AIO.
You seem to boost/spike hotter, but averages look pretty much the same. Difference in overall case cooling/airflow? Mine runs as cool as it possible can be done. I also use a "pressure plate" on my CPU ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5Q5ZWNQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1). No idea if it actually does anything as I added it while changing cases - run on LianLi 216 now ... which interestingly enough didn't improve air flow/temps much over the 205 "modded" case I had till now.
Are your games running as cool as mine?
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So your telling me that this board I’m planning on buying won’t be too “cheap” for my 13900k and power limit it or something? And the vrms are good enough? Well what if I wanted to get ddr5? Would this version be good? https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG-Z790-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B0BL8K1YH1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1BO04L2KWIAXV&keywords=z790+tomahawk+wifi+ddr5&qid=1670930843&sprefix=z790+tomahawk+wifi+ddr%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1
So this mobo would be okay for the 13900k I plan to purchase? https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Z790-DDR4-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B0BHCGHBDY/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=5J4R04VRT1PP&keywords=z790+tomahawk+wifi+ddr4&qid=1670930095&sprefix=z790+to%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-2 also do I need a bios update for it to work for 13th gen?
Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/ElecGear-Anti-Bending-Aluminum-Replacement-Retrofit/dp/B0B2DDYGYG you should google for review on this. It helps temp by usually around 5c.
Idle CPU at 45 is way too high. It shouldn't be that high on a 360mm. Check your power draw. 13900k still shouldn't draw more than 253w at max unless your motherboard overvoltage your CPU by default, which, a lot of them do.
I went from a 9700k to 13700k, huge improvement and no more constant stuttering. Paired with a 3080. I'm sure you know but make sure you get a nice cooler for the 13900k. I went with a 360 aio and my 13700k still hits 87c. I probably need to look into getting a contact frame and some better thermal paste for it. I've also heard about under volting the CPU but I'm not sure where to start or how to do that.
>First, yes, it's much faster than the newest iPhone
Geekbench results (Surface Pro X; iPhone 11 Pro Max) actually disagree with you there. In fact, Geekbench has the iPhone 11 Pro Max being 35% faster in single-core and 15% faster in multicore. And while Geekbench isn't typically that reliable for cross-architecture comparisons, in this case it's comparing ARM to ARM — essentially the closest we can get to an apples to apples comparison. I'm ignoring the GPU comment because we're not talking about GPUs, we're talking about CPUs (though the lines do get blurry when we're talking SoCs). The SQ1 does have a somewhat impressive GPU, though, I'll give you that.
Well, we're all wondering why you're gaming on a workstation processor.
You can certainly keep your LGA 2066 socket R4 motherboard and spend $1200+ on the best processor manufactured for it.
This IS the old box design, just given the simplified modern look. Bleh. I agree that 8th gen boxes were pretty though lol.
UPDATE:
OK, so I have learned a couple things. I have been able to test this laptop with its Iris Xe graphics on a 4k TV that a desktop computer is successfully connecting to at 4k@60Hz and 4:4:4 (though RGB doesn't work, it's not really needed as 4:4:4 chroma subsampling is enough).
Using the same HDMI cable and TV input that this desktop computer is using, this laptop cannot match the desktop computer's settings using the HDMI connection on the laptop. Namely, it can do 4k 4:4:4, but only at 30Hz, or I can do 4k at 60Hz with only 4:2:0 compression. It can't do 4k at 60Hz and 4:4:4 (nor RGB).
Using a Thunderbolt/USB-C to HDMI dongle adapter (this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MSWMXT4?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details), this laptop is able to connect to the TV as I need it to without issue. Same TV input and cable, through the dongle, and this same laptop hits 4k@60Hz at 4:4:4 color easily. Perhaps this is expected, or this is a bug. Either way, I was able to get my requirements out of this laptop via the Thunderbolt connection.
6400 CL32 is probably the best value right now, since you can pick it up for around 220.
G.Skill RipJaws S5 Series (Intel XMP) 32GB
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09Y1FMSWS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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These ran instantly at advertised speed of 6000 when XMP was enabled on my Z690-I board.
I'm running a 12700K. They run smooth as silk.
Hey OP, if you haven't been given it, here's the link for a bracket:
I contacted NZXT two weeks ago regarding this issue and they said that they would ship the bracket and update my ticket 48 hours later. After 5-7 days passed, I called them and was told that the bracket is out of stock in their warehouse.
The rep sent me this link as an alternative until they send me a bracket and he said that this is the exact same kit that they use. Just installed it in my system today and temps are good:) Think I have a faulty micro-usb cable tho bc no display on my pump head, but that's a different issue, GL!
I'm in the same boat -- I actually am upgrading from a 2600k and ram choices seemed simpler back then -- if you didn't overclock (which I don't), then you basically bought a supported speed of RAM, and even if you bought a higher speed ram, it would move the speed down so there was no point.
I'm confused at what DDR5 I should buy if I got a 13700k with a Z790 as well, if I'm not planning to overclock. I see 5600/6000/7000/7200 speeds and tons of different latencies.
For example, Amazon actually has a decent sale going on for this TeamGroup DDr5, but is 5600 fast enough? Is the latency too slow (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09YTVCSB3/
This is compatible with the nzxt Z63. It's an asetek based pump and this is compatible with your cooler.
That doesn't need a whole lot of cooler. Buy whatever decent cooler is on sale as Black friday sales are starting. Check r/buildacpsales
The most you will need are on sale for $60ish or less like the Deepcool AK620, Thermalright FC140 etc. Hard to beat this FC140 at $44.
You can get away with single towers too, but good ones are usually $3x-$4x+.
If I were you I would purchase a SSD from a reputable brand and install Windows on it.
A SSD is the biggest improvement to your daily computing experience you can possibly make. It even made a 6 Watt Intel Chip from 2013 usable (snappy) again.
Would a kit like this be what I would need then? I can't seem to find any listings for just the standoffs alone.
Yup, they tighten down flush to the board and the pump doesn't rock/wiggle at all once everything is tightened down. I also tried using the retrofit kit standoffs and ones that came with this kit but both were loose when installed.
Coincidentally,
I added a contact frame to my set up when I migrated from NH-D15 to the AF 280.
No idea however if or how my temps/performance would have been without it, as I didn't feel like "testing" one set up vs another.
TG frame is expensive for what it is.
I bought this (based on reviews and gen. recommendations):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5Q5ZWNQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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This DDR5 6000 CL30 is 200 to 500 points higher in time spy, time spy extreme, and port royal than this DDR4 Cl14 3200. Also, the ddr5 breaks 40,000 on CB R23 while the ddr4 stays in the low/mid 39's.
What does that mean real world or in games? I have no idea.
Dang, no way to maneuver it any other way?
4 pin extension cable on Amazon is what you might need.
Is this the frame you're using?
Haha, thank you! Mentioned it in another comment thread, but it's the NovelKey 65 keyboard with this keycap set in case you were wondering!
Thank you, I love it! It's the NovelKey 65 keyboard with this keycap set! Hope that helps!
It's the NovelKey 65 keyboard with this keycap set!
Yeah I can see that haha. As to the ram are you able to link any that would beat this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TR1BQM3?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 I know its CL18 but I think I can tighten the timings a little bit. I don't know my brain is exploding and parts are expensive, I don't know if I'm just not filtering right but I just see expensive parts everywhere. Seems like its just better to just call it a day with DDR4 3600mhz for $90 than DDR5 5600mhz or + for way more.
You can get a wifi adapter card off Amazon / eBay for a rather cheap price that this can simply plug into .. but why?
You can get the newest versions of the Intel wifi cards for $20 or so, wireless 6 and put them in a pcie card. I've done this before and your total out of pocket would be something like around $35 to $40 with tax. I suggest dual antennas.
Here is what you want -
You could probably spend half for the same performance in a Scythe or IDcooling solution.https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-226-XT-LGA1700-Heatpipes-All-Black/dp/B09FDXJV3M
The contact frame finally fixed my Gigabyte z690 stability and ram compatibility issues, not heat related...
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Anti-Bending-Retrofit-Generation-Black/dp/B0B811J7D9