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You could install CoreTemp and see if your computer is overheating which is pretty common. It is always worth checking inside the case if you can to see if there is a dust buildup, especially in areas with lots of airflow. Other than that it could just be problems related to being an old computer or just faulty hardware which is also not uncommon.
Install CoreTemp (click on "More downloads…" and select the appropriate standalone version to avoid toolbar crap). It allows you to monitor the temps of each core in the CPU and set alerts if any get too high.
It's a Core i7 in a very small package. It's going to get warm. If it gets too warm, it'll shut itself off (but before that, it'll ramp up the fan speed and throttle down the CPU power).
However, if you are concerned, you can just download CoreTemp. Yes, it's third party and no, there isn't a Lenovo app to check temperatures.
Download "coretemp", and compare your CPU tempuratures under load vs idle, if the CPU is running too hot, I'd recommend reseating your CPU cooler, as well as re-applying thermal compound.
Just watch the system's temperatures with the same applications running and the same tasks being performed using this tool, with and without your fan on. I don't think it should be a problem. If it's particularly hot where you're living, I'd recommend purchasing a cooling pad for your laptop, which blows air into the air intakes of your laptop. These actually work.
Some general advice: Always keep your laptop in a cool, well-ventilated room on a flat, firm surface and make sure all vents are clean and unobstructed. Regularly clean your vents and replace the thermal paste if you notice temperatures climbing.
If you're going to overclock or want to run at maximum PBO speeds for longer, it might. But the boxed cooler is plenty for normal use. I'd say start with the boxed cooler, and if you notice that it's running hot (by using something like Core Temp or HWiNFO you can always upgrade later.
If you upgrade later, be sure to clean the thermal compound from the CPU by using a lint-free cloth or paper (e.g. a coffee filter) and some medical alcohol. Should wipe of cleanly. Apply a bit from the compound that Noctua provides, and install according to the manual.
Hopefully Intel CPU manuals are good enough?
From"Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developers Manual Volume 3 (3A & 3B): System Programming Guide" at: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/architectures-software-developer-manuals.html
Section 14.5.1 Catastrophic Shutdown Detector P6 family processors introduced a thermal sensor that acts as a catastrophic shutdown detector. This catastrophic shutdown detector was also implemented in Pentium 4, Intel Xeon and Pentium M processors. It is always enabled. When processor core temperature reaches a factory preset level, the sensor trips and processor execution is halted until after the next reset cycle.
The mechanism is builtin to the processor, not under the control of BIOS and not dependent on other sensor outside the processor.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005597/processors.html
Hi, I'm no expert but I can try talking through some of the things I am suspecting. If that is ok. Does that problem only happen when you launch that particular game? How about other games?
Download CPU Temp (https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) and to see if somehow your CPU is overheating. Perhaps the CPU cooler wasn't installed properly, who knows.
Let me know and I hope all goes well :)
Wattage isn't all that important on a system like yours with low power requirements. I recommend getting a higher quality PSU, like a Corsair CXM, or even better, a Seasonic or Superflower unit.
You can try stress testing and verifying the temperature like the other person suggested. I recommend testing the CPU maximum temperature with CoreTemp. Use IntelBurnTest to create a high CPU load. Your CPU shouldn't exceed ~85 C. The GPU can be stress tested with FurMark.
Firstly - check the event logs - they records in excruciating detail everything that's occurring on your PC. You can filter it to only show warnings and critical errors.
Have you checked for overheating issues?
CoreTemp or HWinfo utils should show if that's occurring - maybe your CPU or Geforce thermal paste isn't effective.
Use Memtest86 or Windows built in memory diagnostics to ensure your RAM isn't faulty.
Finally - is your PSU up to spec? If it has problems cold booting, freezing, noises, high pitched whine (none of these you mentioned) it might be the PSU.
Speccy. Wait until the issue begins, with Speccy open, and note or screenshot the temperatures of CPU, GPU, and anything else with a temperature that shows up.
CoreTemp also keeps a rolling machine which can be useful to run for awhile to pickup rogue temp spikes on the CPU.
Are you on a laptop or PC?
Not sure if this is the case, but I'm running an i7-8700K, and my PCSX2 lagged previously due to my CPU overheating.
I only learned that was the problem when I used this program to measure the temps of my CPU cores (it's free)
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Probably worth checking, at the very least. I ended up switching out my PC's default cooling system for a $45 fan cooler that greatly reduced the temps, and voila - no more laggy PCSX2 (except for broken games, of course)
If you're playing on a laptop on high performances, it may be worth to experiment with light undervolting. This is all assuming overheating is your main issue (it may not be).
And therein lies my next hurdle: CPU temps.
I have Core Temp running in the background to monitor min/max CPU temps.
These past few nights, I've been playing CONTROL and/or Doom Eternal via HDMI output to my 4K TCL TV @ 60 FPS (but running games at 1080p, max settings). After my session ends, I check Core Temp and it will report 83c - 89c as the max temp. I've even seen 100c a few times during my various benchmark runs.
I've repasted my Alienware m15 three times -- twice with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and most recently with ARCTIC MX-4, both of which I still have on-hand. While I have not yet repasted my Legion 5 Pro, I am beginning to think that it would help my thermals.
Thoughts? Are enthusiasts typically repasting their L5Pro's?
For the record, the Alienware with 8th Gen Intel Core i7 would hit 100c if you just looked at wrong. The L5Pro + AMD Ryzen CPU is so much cooler -- literally.
This sounds like a hardware issue. Someone already mentioned temperatures. You can check those with coretemp: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
If the temperatures are acceptable, then it can still be an issue with RAM, the motherboard, or the harddrive/ssd.
Run a benchmark from gpu userbenchmark, it will give you a hint as to why it's slow by comparing it to other machines and scoring your hardware so you can see what is performing slow. They could have replaced the thermal compound with an inferior type or just pulled the heatspreader without replacing the compound, you can check temps using Core Temp.
Sometimes laptops use a special version of the GPU driver that is required to make it work, make sure your GPU is listed in device manager.
I don’t think so. My low end model from that year was noisy and hot. Never heard of one not being both of those things.
Wouldn’t worry unless it starts acting funny. You can check the temp (Windows) if concerned and compare to other reports.
CPU has failsafes (like halting) if it gets too high.
I don't recommend undervolting a new machine immediately. Just use it normally for a while, and run some tests to make sure everything is working properly. There are hardware diagnostic tests in Lenovo Vantage and/or in the bios that you can run. You can use a program like Prime95 to make sure the system is stable under heavy load. During this time, you can use a tool like CoreTemp to watch your CPU load, frequency, and temp, to learn how your machine behaves.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Once you are confident that everything is working properly, then you can start tweaking if desired. Here is a guide that talks about undervolting with Throttlestop:
https://www.ultrabookreview.com/31385-the-throttlestop-guide/
You can download Throttlestop here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/
To undervolt, the most important settings are the voltage offset for the cpu and cache in the FIVR settings. Every cpu has different limits, but with your i9 you can probably start with something like -100mv offset.
Just to expand on what a few others have said. Sensor chips aren't custom made for motherboards. There are a few available chips and a OEM simple picks the one that best matches their need. For that reason the sensor chip might have a number of sensors that actually aren't used by the OEM on the model of MB.
How temp sensors work is you have a wire or trace connected to a pin on the chip and as the temperature changes it's measured voltage changes. The OEM calibrates the voltage to match temperatures for pins it's using in the BIOS, but often doesn't do anything for the ones that they don't use. So speedfan is simply reporting the values for unconnected sensors and you can safely ignore them.
While speedfan is okay for measuring temps it's real strength is in controlling fan/pump speeds on older motherboards that don't do that good a job in the BIOS. If you want a good real time monitor Core Temp is a better bet. Truth is though unless you're doing some really high overclocks real time monitoring isn't as necessary as it used to be. Modern CPUs have great thermal/voltage management and the chances of burning one up is really really low.
First you'd want to confirm that's the problem. Easy way to do that would be to download core temp and run this application then do something that induces a shutdown. If the temperature runs away up to 90c and then it shuts off then that would be the issue.
Why that's happening could be a ton of stuff. But those are new parts so I could guess this is a new build? Perhaps the cooler is installed improperly? What kind of cooler is it?
What is the temperature of the CPU and on what frequencies does it run during the test? You may CoreTemp to monitor these parameters. There is a chance that something is wrong with the laptop's cooler assembly (bad/absent thermal paste or damaged heat pipe). Also, I'm pretty sure that your BIOS (there is no version in your test, but the date is 2018 11 08) is not the current version - update your bios and drivers using Lenovo Vantage tool. AFAIK there were a lot of complaints about Lenovo messing up with older BIOS versions, which led to CPU slowdowns/constant work on the lowest possible frequency (CPU won't use Turbo Boost if disconnected and reconnected to the power), albeit not such extreme as in your case, but still worth checking.
What do the figures say in this tool (as opposed to using the NZXT CAM which I don't trust very much).
As others have said the system idle process is not really a program but a way for the computer to monitor how often the CPU is idle and not expecuting any instructions. You want that number to be as high as possible.
As for your overheating issues... If your CPU is getting really hot when idle then it means your CPU cooler is not performing very well. Do you have your system overclocked at all? Do you use the stock cooler and thermal paste? Download and run Core Temp and tell us what your average idle temperature is. If your CPU is really hot when idle then there are a few things you may need to do:
Clean the inside of your case with compressed air to get rid of all the dust that may have collected in the fans, vents, and on the components themselves. If you don't know how to do this safely then take it to a repair shop and let them do it.
Download Speccy and under the CPU category on the left tell us the average CPU fan speed. If it's too low even when overheating then your CPU fan may be failing and you'll need a replacement.
Reapply the thermal compound between the CPU and Heat Sink. This is definitely something you should only do yourself if you know what you're doing. If you've never done it before take it to a repair shop or you could risk breaking something.
If you're using the stock cooler I would recommend buying an aftermarket cooler and attaching it. This is optional however, especially if you've never had a problem before.
Typically overheating issues are a hardware problem, not software, especially if your CPU is sitting idle almost 100% of the time. I highly recommend following steps 1 and 2 first and see if that helps, if not then proceed with step 3 and ultimately 4.
Well, something definitely taxing your processor/GPU. X1E comes with 80 W/h battery, which means that your laptop is consuming 40 W/h and that is definitely not "office type of work". As a first basic step, if you are using Windows 10 - open Task Manager and sort applications by CPU usage and then by GPU usage. If you'll find nothing suspicious in the Task Manager then go by the process of elimination - close applications one by one and see, if time estimate for the battery changes significantly. Start with your browser. Switch to a different one for a day, I recommend Microsoft Edge, it suspends background tabs really well (e. g. some site that you are visiting may have broken script running on it, which can tax processor of your laptop). Keep in mind that browsers are, usually, splitting their tabs into separate processes and will show you loads only for the tab, that is activated at the moment.
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P. S. Task Manager in Windows 10 (1809) even has a tab which is showing power usage of different applications, in relative terms. Also, you may install CoreTemp, or some other application, that will show you the power consumption of your CPU. Unfortunately, I cannot remember if there is a similar application, that can show the power consumption of your GPU. On Linux you can do it via TLP.
That doesn't make a lick of difference. Very likely you need to redo the CPU cooling, the symptoms you mention, both the exact BSOD error, and extreme slowness are often the result of bad contact between the CPU cooler and the CPU.
Use CoreTemp to read the CPU temperature. If it gets close to a 100 C you'll get really bad thermal throttling. Your type of CPU should reach 85 C max. under a high CPU load with a properly installed cooler.
Is the monitor connected to the video card, not onboard video?
What's the CPU temperature? If you bumped into the CPU cooler while you switched the storage it may now have bad contact with the CPU. Which causes the CPU to overheat and throttle.
Run CoreTemp. How hot is the CPU? On idle it should be between 30-50C. If it gets near a 100 C it will start to throttle.
The error says "installer hash does not match".
Do you have a proxy or any other device that filters your internet traffic?
What happens if you download and run that link?
After what you've tried I'm pretty much out of ideas.
Try running a temperature monitoring program like Core Temp in case something is overheating.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
If it's overheating you could try cleaning the dust out and/or redoing the thermal paste on the offending part.
I was having crash issues ages back, eventually downloaded a temp monitoring program and found out my graphics card was overheating. Pulled the heatsink off and the thermal paste had turned to chalk. Re-pasted it and no more crashes.
Worth a shot.
Sorry don't really know much about CPU folding, maybe some other monkey knows more about it. But what I do know if you can use tools like CoreTemp to monitor your CPU, to put your mind at ease. :)
You might want to log/ check temps while running your machine, it does sound a lot like it's thermal throttling. I personally use HWiNFO64, but just for CPU temps I suggest CoreTemp
could be bad cpu or it's overheating and bios is set to reboot at hard shutdowns, which is why it looks like a reboot when it's actually shutting down to preserve itself. i'd install a small tool like Core Temp and watch it while you're playing, most CPUs will shutdown around 95-100c. unless you know 100% it's not temp related, this is exactly where i'd start.
65°C en idle c'est chaud en effet, les 5800X sont habituellement chauds, mais pour de l'idle cela me semble excessif en effet.
Essaye https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ et dis nous ce que cela donne niveau temps ? Lance une vidéo youtube en 4K histoire de faire carburer ton CPU :)
Put Core Temp on it and see if it's due to the CPU running hot. If so a better CPU cooler should help. The factory ones work but not very well when you start stressing the CPU. One of the drawbacks of the prebuilt units.
Yes. We call the water cooling package AIO meaning "All-in-One" it's just easier. There are quite a few programs, but here is a lightweight one with an alert/overheating feature:
Have you checked your temperatures while gaming? If it is somewhere around 85-95 degrees Celcius then you have a problem that may be causing these frame dips. Check out this program to see your CPU temperatures https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
I'd also recommend making sure that your drivers are up to date u/electrical-cup3360. If they are and the issue persists, you may have some hardware overheating or failing in some other way.
Start here. Since you have been dealing with it since you got the computer, it may be an issue with the initial install, or with defective hardware in the initial build. If it is a second hand computer (i.e. you didn't build or purchase it initially), there is a lot of history you can't really determine prior to it being in your possession.
Paradox games are notoriously CPU-intensive, so monitoring your CPU temps with something like this can help you determine if it may be a cooling issue, and related to a fan/heatsink/radiator issue or defective component.
Personally, after determining it was not a temperature issue, my move would be to do a fresh Windows install like so. Mostly because it has been so long since the problem started, and there are a LOT of potential software changes you have to address in troubleshooting. After that, I would make sure I had all of the latest drivers, then reinstall your games. Paradox games are relatively small, so it wouldn't be very network-intensive or time consuming.
I’d check your temperatures with https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ and make sure your fans are all functioning properly. The fans on your case, your cpu cooler and the fans directly on your gpu. If they’re all spinning properly (I had a gpu fan literally melt on me one time) and the fans aren’t the problem next I’d check my thermal paste, remove the old stuff and put on a new layer.
install the program and see if you can detect the values of any heat sensors that are present in your system.
Here is another program that may be easier for you to deal with. https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
A few thoughts on this:
All modern computers have over-temperature safeties built in, they will not let themselves reach a temperature that would cause immediate damage. A single "incident" of overheating will not have caused any lasting damage. Allowing a computer to overheat over a long period of time (we're talking months to years) can eventually lead to certain types of hardware damage and failure.
Most electronics in the computer will have safe operating temperatures in the ranges of 85-100 degrees C and sometimes higher. That's close to the boiling point of water, so a laptop can become very hot to the touch on the outside, but that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is actually "overheating". The only way to truly know is by checking temperatures with software, such as Coretemp or HWinfo.
Laptop fans adjust their speed based on temperature. When running any programs that are putting a load on the system you can expect fans to ramp up and down in speed (and also noise). If it is actually overheating, then of course the fans will run at their highest speed and noise level, but they can also be noticeably loud even when running at safe temperatures. In short: fan noise is not an accurate indication of overheating.
Using a laptop sitting on top of fabric, a bed, couch, or even your lap (despite being called a *lap*top) can block the intake air vents which are usually on the bottom, which will of course lead to higher temperatures.
Try using something like coretemp https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ to check the temps while the game is running. You will need to use the console command 'engine_no_focus_sleep 0' to allow the game to run at full speed even while you are doing things like looking at your temp window. If temps show that they are good and issues still persist then memory becomes more of a likely culprit.
Run Core Temp in Windows. You can do it via a USB stick if pressed for time. It'll read the processor thermometer and watt-meter and tell you if BIOS is reading a defective mobo thermometer. If Core Temp says the chip is near 90C before shutting down, then you have a defective heat sink or processor.
Use your PC! Ditch CAM and your issues will be gone.
Also just because the temps aren't displaying doesn't mean you can't enjoy the rest of your PC. Run CoreTemp if you want to monitor the CPU temps in real time on your taskbar:
My i5 SP7 is noticeably warmer to the touch on the back as you hold it when charging/connected to AC power than when on battery alone.
The normal idle CPU temp is around 40-50C. Highest I have seen is 70C under normal office type work loads. You can use an app like Core Temp to monitor CPU load, temp, power and frequency.
Sounds like a heat issue. Run Coretemp and see if things are overheating. Best case scenario, you just need to clean some fans and filters and what-not. Worst case, you need to replace the AIO cooler.
I'd say yes and as the other poster mentioned, allow as much airflow as possible. It's probably worth installing something like CoreTemp to help you keep an eye on temperatures, it gives you a nice icon in your taskbar showing the temperature at all times.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
That's what I use. Not sure if that link might get removed not sure how the subreddit treats links but you can Google core temp or find the link on Tom's hardware.
Simple as run it and it'll show you the cpu speed and temperature. Then when rimworld is running slow alt tab out and see how high the temperature is and what speed it thinks it's running at.
While running stress tests, I'll use Ryzen Master in conjunction with Core Temp to monitor, while RealBench does its thing (Realbench also monitors temps, ASUS boards only, similar to Afterburner.)
In normal circumstances, I simply use Core Temp and have it running on my system tray so I can see what's going on in real time. It's a very unobtrusive program.
Sounds like your CPU is hitting the thermal limit and killing your laptop to prevent permanent damage.
I would suggest downloading coretemp and then keep an eye on your cpu tempratures. One of the fields is marked TJ Max this is the temprature your CPU will shutdown at.
Your pc could be getting too hot while charging. Download core temp. What does it say when it is capping at 70%? Also, maybe it is a power plan issue? Type power plan in the search, and change it to high performance, or something different.
Does the cpu fan work on your computer? I would suggest installing this free program to monitor your cpu temperature when you're using your computer and you will know if the laptop is overheating. https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. If it is actually overheating, and as you mentioned that you're not that fond with laptops, I would take it to any person who knows his way around laptops to clean it from dust and give it some fresh cpu thermal paste. Basically just take it in for maintenance inspection. It shouldnt cost much.
I own a latitude 7490 myself, bought it used, had issues with overheating. All it needed was some fresh thermal paste and removal of the dust from the heatsink. Works perfectly now.
For the temperatur, you can use http://www.gputemp.com for the gpu and this https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ for the cpu. Depending on your gpu you can look up the average ppd here https://folding.lar.systems. But there are only "never" or non on-board gpu listed.
Also the time to finish a WU depends on the WU, but usually you get more points for a larger WU. Maybe the one you are working on is a large one, could be, Even though I think 2 days is a little too long. and sometimes the cpu is better, i bought a new computer with a 3070 used the gpu for mining and put my old gtx 660 in it. Now the cpu gets more ppd than the gtx 660
-Make sure the fan is working - you should feel a stream of warm air coming out from the fan vent
-Blow compressed air into the fan vent if you suspect its clogged with dust & dirt
-Download a CPU temperature monitoring app, like Core Temp (alcpu.com)
Yes, preferred GPU settings are respected by the system. You may switch all apps that you are using to the iGPU and see if there is a difference. But there is a chance that fans getting loud is nothing to do with the GPU being used. If you are on Windows 10 you can open the Task Manager and check if GPU is under heavy load when you hear the fans kicking in. I would also recommend running Core Temp and monitoring the CPU load, just to determine the main heat sources (you may put TDP/temperature/CPU load info in the system tray, by going to Option > Settings > Notofocation area, checking all checkboxes that you wish to receive info from, for easier access).
There are a lot of programmes out there, core temps for example. You could reduce the number of threads used or you could undervolt your cpu, wich is the best way in my oppinion. But your options are limmited wit a laptop i guess...
what are the temps when you play? you can use core temp to measure this. But i think the main problem are your specs it just can't run the ''newer'' games. the best thing you can do is buy a new pc
link to core temp: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
I think as long as CPU should be fine running under 90c. I keep my 5 mining computers, all windows 10, in the garage next to a window and I can maintain cpu temps ranging from mid 60c to high 70c, depending on the time of day. I have CoreTemp (https://www.alcpu.com › CoreTemp) installed on all my CPU miners. Within CoreTemp I set the overheat protection feature to 85c or 90c, depending on the computer. Once the CPU hits temperature you set in the overheat protection settings the computer will go to sleep. You can configure it so that the computer shuts down if you prefer. My laptop has automatically gone to sleep during the warm days when the CPU temp hit 85c. When I power on the laptop in the evening when it's cooler, the laptop wakes up from sleep and continues where it left off... mining Monero.
The base speed of the chip is 3.2 gigaherts. It seems that something is making it throttle. First, I would go to control panel --> system and sycurity --> power options. Then click show additional plans, then click maximum performance. What is the CPU speed now?
Also download this: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ It will tell you the temperature of your cpu. I want you to record the numbers for when the computer is idle, when the computer is being used, and when it is being loaded. Then tell me the temperature for each core for each usecase.
It could be an overheating problem. It might not
Check CPU temps when gaming. Something like Coretemp https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ is a simple way to do so. You can leave it running in the background while gaming and when you're done it shows the hottest temp the CPU was at. Of course you can also see the temps live too.
I use Core temp and park it in the system tray.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Great program. Start monitoring other things too. Keep task manager running to see if you have some processes hogging system cpu cycles. Also look at your network load and memory % full to see if something is up that is causing issues.
No worries. I'm not trying to make you feel foolish, just assuring you that you definitely have a CPU cooler. So you might have a program installed from Gigabyte that monitors your computer resources. I'd start there. If not, a good free program is Core Temp.
Like mentioned above the cpu is the problem. It is a solid guess that the temps are off. Have you used thermal paste? Please download CoreTemp from https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ and rerun the benchmark. Tell us the maximum temperature afterwards please. It could be that the temps are fine so check that first before going through the whole process of rebuilding the cooling system.
Ok good we eliminated a faulty/mismatched power adapter.
CPU heat is immediately present as soon as you start the laptop. It can go from 0 to 90c in a matter of seconds. Run your laptop and install "core temp". Check your temps and let me know.
There are four possible issues that I can think of.
1) The click sound is from the hard drive which loses power before it can park their arms. If it clicks randomly when the computer is still running, the hard drive is probably dying. Download CrystalDiskInto and see what it says.
2) The heatsink could be clogged with dust and the CPU overheats. If that's the case, you can tell by looking at the temperature.
3) The screws on the heatsink may become loose and reduce the heatsink effectiveness. Again, you can tell by looking at the CoreTemp temperature.
4) Some of the screws may be loose and the inner components fail to ground properly. You can tight the screws on the bottom with a Philips #1 screwdriver but don't overtighten them or the plastic will crack.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ this program is free and you can enable tray icons to always view the cpu temp. If you have a 2nd monitor, it makes it easy to view while gaming.
I don't know how reliable it is but for CPU I use CoreTemp For GPU the temperature should be on task manager on the Performance tab.
For fan speed there is a lot of software out there but I doubt it works on laptops.
Honestly I played around with the settings in the BIAS and just ran the cinebench r20 benchmark every now and again to see and it all seems to have come into place. It's like the chip needed to be warmed up honestly because on my first test runs I was getting benchmarks just like yours.
There's a reply in this thread from /u/wSRes which I found to be very helpful he said:
>ST should be 1.48-1.5v, MT 1.05-1.1v, clocks in R20 around 4100Mhz, ST should be at least 4800Mhz. Temperature with 360mm AIO is around 55-60c in R20 for me with initial peak of 65.
I noticed when running my initial benchmarks that my single core clock was not reaching 4800Mhz because it wasn't boosting correctly because me not knowing what I was doing capped the voltage to 1.14v in the bias somehow. I use coretemp 1.16 to show me how my 5950x is doing and what voltage it's at while I'm running the benchmark you can download it here
How are your temps looking and which mainboard and BIOS version are you using? Press "windows + R" and type in "dxdiag" there are all the infos regarding the BIOS and mainboard. Check temps with https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Check the FAQ.
More specific to your request, Core Temp has a C/C++ based plugin interface so that's a big hint as to what to start with.
I love seeing computer setups like this. 1. It could be an overclocking issue 2. A GPU that old probably needs new thermal paste. 3. Check the temps of your CPU and GPU with https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ 30-60c is a normal range 4. Your computer will probably play the game better without the graphics card anyways
> I couldn't really decipher what information was important.
Then just get Core Temp from here. It will give you just your CPU temperature which is what you want to know.
Run Core Temp and make sure your processor isn't too hot.
I would also move the PC to another room and plug it into a different outlet. Rule out home circuit issues...
Fans just help with airflow into or out of the case. Unless you’re overheating and your CPU is thermally throttling you won’t notice a difference in FPS because of case fans. If you’re worried, you can just Core Temps to monitor your CPU temperature, which can be downloaded for free here: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Alt + Ctrl + Delete > Task Manager > Performance (Tab). I had this on a another monitor and also installed Core Temp to monitor the individual CPU Cores.
You can also enable Dev mode in MSFS via the menu under Developer > Turn Developer mode on and then this will enable the dev bar at the top. There is an option in there that will show your FPS as well as the GPU and GPU usage. Before this my GPU would never use more than 2.5gb of its 6GB and now its hitting well into the 5's.
BOINC does not need a GPU (eg Nvidia). Some projects run on CPUs, some run on GPUs, and some run on both.
Just be aware of your CPU temps when running CPU tasks. Install an app like Coretemp so you can see what temp your CPU is hitting when your running CPU tasks.
If the temps are high, ask about how you can reduce CPU usage within BOINC.
Download Core Temp and take a look at your temperatures when running games and such. Anything above 90 might indicate poor thermals (fans, thermal compound, etc). Start with that.
Have you blown the dust out of your cpu heatsink and your power supply lately? This app will tell you if your CPU overheating which can make it throttle down
There's no reason to buy a different cooler unless you prefer the looks of another cooler or plan on overclocking.
Put it together, run some benchmarks, play some games, look at your temps with something like Core Temp. If the CPU can run at 100% load without hanging about in the 90C range and isn't constantly hitting TJMax, you'll be fine with the cooler you have.
This could be a cooling issue or it could be a power supply issue.
Clean the heatsink and fan with a can of compressed air.
Record and monitor your temps with CoreTemp.
When that shows reasonable temps replace your power supply.
72F is not hot. CPU temps over 90C will have to be corrected.
Like others here, I work in IT. There are plenty of times when we don't have all the answers. I think sometimes people confuse "common place" with "simple".
Just because we've got a ton of them, doesn't mean these aren't insanely complicated devices that can most certainly drive you nuts some times.
As others have pointed out, you may have a cooling issue. That's not uncommon. You might try checking out Core Temp:
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Typical temp is between 30 and 40 Celsius -- though under heavy load/hot environment you may see temps as high as 70-80c.
Most modern processors will slow down (thermal throttle) if they get to hot, and in extreme cases they will go into thermal shutdown to protect themselves. It's possible a fan has failed, there is excessive dust in the case, or some combination of those factors.
Regardless, don't let this get you down. Situations like this can give you tunnel vision and make you think this problem is the whole damn world, but it's not. You will move and likely won't even think about this ever again a week or two from now.
Yeah that’s adequate under normal circumstances. I’d still recommend you check CPU temps with CoreTemp. It’ll check temp and load on each core, along with your clock speed, ram usage and overall CPU load.
Low power state it my term. I mean 1 to 5% CPU load and definitely less then 10% for most of the time.
You can use something like Battery Bar Pro, BatteryInfoView or Core Temp (although Core Temp isnt working completely with my SP7 i5) to monitor power draw.
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Just make sure you don't agree to the worthless ad bar.
It's a fairly basic but will tell you what you need. Also your bios might have either a graph or at least a history of your heat.
One more thought. Temperature. If you hear the fan go on (well on my SP3, SP4 has a CPU fan, SP5/6/7 are fanless) or even feel a bit more temperature around the CPU you are using too much CPU.
To get some insight into temperature I have used Speedfan but i have recently found a utility CoreTemp that will minimise to the task bar along side xMeters. It also can show some useful information like CPU power level and clock frequency.
If you are like me you will need to make the numbers more visible in the task bar. Look through the Options|settings -> Notification Area and change the task bar font size by pressing the Select font button. You can customise what is displayed and other features there too.
One more thought. Temperature. If you hear the fan go on (well on my SP3, SP4 has a CPU fan, SP5/6/7 are fanless) or even feel a bit more temperature around the CPU you are using too much CPU.
To get some insight into temperature I have used Speedfan but i have recently found a utility CoreTemp that will minimise to the task bar along side xMeters. It also can show some useful information like CPU power level and clock frequency.
If you are like me you will need to make the numbers more visible in the task bar. Look through the Options|settings -> Notification Area and change the task bar font size by pressing the Select font button. You can customise what is displayed and other features there too.
Install "Core Temp" and check your CPU core temps after you play a game.
Core Temp will save your high temps and low temps.
My Dell G5 laptop was running hot , in the 90's celsius and higher while playing and 60-70s when idle.
I installed Dell Power Manager and set fan speed to Performance.
Now my lows are in the 40's and highs are in the 70's while playing.
All lag and jittering has disappeared.
so when you close the program the computer then crashes correct?
both programs you are using are cpu/ processor temp monitor applications?
is your cpu fan plugged in? did u wiggle the heatsink a little bit to make sure a good seat against the processors Integrated heat spreader.
to me its just sounding like a temp fault but thats the story your telling.
try the program core temp simple tool https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
This is usually an error that happens due to your system abruptly shutting down or restarting, giving the error code 41 in Event Viewer.
This issue can be caused by a few things, I would recommend checking Event Viewer beforehand, to see if there's weird files causing the issue.
Also, use BlueScreenView to see if there's any programs or files causing the issue, too.
A common issue with this happening is due to the PSU not supplying enough power to the system, resulting in the PSU being faulty. You can test with another power supply to see if this issue resurfaces.
How often does this happen?
One last thing, make sure to watch your CPU's temps with something like CoreTemp just to ensure that your system is just getting too hot and crashing.
remove any overclocking if you've done any. also resetting the bios might work.
try stress-testing your system. heavyload is a good way to test the cpu and furmark is a good one for the gpu. you might want to also monitor cpu temps while you're doing it with coretemp. cpu's usually freeze when they reach 100 degrees.
there might be a powerhog- a glitched program that uses all the cpu power it can. try to have task manager ope when it happens and see which program it is. reinstall it aftewards and it should be fine.
This is quite probably the reason for the throttling. For those types of calls keep your surface already at max battery, change the profile to balanced (lowest option), and this could be enough to keep it from throttling. To test this theory out, charge it up to max, idle it, and then get on a call. You could also get a usb fan and point it at the back top of the SP7 and see if that lowers the temperature enough to not throttle. You could also get a free portable program called Core Temp (link here) and it will tell you the processor temperature.
Having a device which is 100% silent has its pros and cons. Test these methods out and see if it's truly due to thermal throttling or not.
I don't believe command prompt has that ability without running a .bat or powershell, see this - https://superuser.com/questions/1241303/how-to-get-cpu-temperature-on-windows-system-using-both-snmp-and-cmd.
However, I use a Rainmeter plugin(displays temps/loads on my desktop) which pulls the data from the free app CoreTemp which runs on PC in the background, and there are a variety of ways to pull data from it.
The Dev section of their site details a lot of ways you could go about it - https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/developers.html
Just a preference I guess, I tested both & HWinfo needs more fiddling with settings just to get a max-coretemp reading in the tray with the lowest CPU & memory usage possible. Check the changelog; https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/history.html
Like I said if you need averages or other sensors HWinfo is great, but for a simple current hottest & max recorded reading, coretemp requires minimal setup for this. I have both installed but run coretemp 24/7 as it has a smaller footprint(even if performance is indistinguishable).
Thanks for such a quick response! I checked the temperature readings with CoreTemp and got this. The temperature was 45 degrees C (115 F) but the load on both my cores is 100%. That certainly sounds bad, considering that I didn't intentionally open a bunch of programs or anything. I ran tasklist and it got this output. Hope this helps?
I'd suggest getting some monitoring running on your machine. If you've a second monitor at your disposal hook it up and set up the monitoring stuff on it so you can visualize things while you're in a game (rather than alt-tabbing, which will also work, just a bit more clunky).
Once you've got that going you can see if there's a direct correlation between spikes in temps and the fan's speed increasing which should also help you definitively isolate exactly which fan is needing to do more work.
For example, you're playing Space Engineer and you hear your fan speed uptick, you look at your monitoring and see that your CPU temp has hit 85º (arbitrary figure, just using as an example) while the GPU temp has remained pretty steady.
CPU Temp monitoring: CoreTemp GPU Monitoring: MSI Afterburner
You might also consider downloading SpeedFan for full on fan speed monitoring/configuration. I'm far from a subject matter expert on SpeedFan, though.
Could be cpu temp is high and is throttling to compensate(dust clogging fans/cpu heatsink). Try Core Temp to see your cpu temperature. Idle can be anywhere from 10 degrees C to 45 degrees C. Full throttle can be anywhere from 50 degree C to 70 degree C.
Could also be that you are running out of RAM available for use. When your computer is running slow, open up Task Manager (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC) and look at your free/available memory under performance tab. I always like to have 1.0GB+ available.
May also be malware/virus that is eating up all your available system resources. Run a scan for safe measure. Malwarebytes
I have a laptop with the same CPU and GPU, and it is in my case the CPU temps which bottleneck the system even when the thermal paste is changed and airflow confirmed. Undervolt the CPU first and monitor it with Coretemp (https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/). The i7-7700HQ seems to overheat easily.
Yes core temp is a windows app. It is completely free and can tell you what your processor temperatures are. If you just type core temp on your search engine it should be the first entry that appears. Here is the link
https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ for your CPU and your graphics card should have software for it that will show you power load, temps, fan speed etc that you can find easily online. You shouldn't ever overheat unless you haven't got enough cooling ie not enough fans or fans in the wrong places
Complete these steps in consecutive order. If one step doesn't fix the overheating, move on to the next. Monitor your temperatures with CoreTemp.
- Clean the dust out of the computer using compressed air.
- Open up the computer and clean out the gunk stuck on the heatsink and the fan. There are many guides on how to do that. For starters, here's one. It's pretty straightforward if you got a phillips head screwdriver, it just takes a bit of time.)
- With your computer still open, remove the heatsink and replace the thermal compound on the CPU. The video listed above shows you how to remove the heatsink to do so. The thermal paste is likely rock hard. I've dealt with a laptop that would shut off moments after powering on due to the ineffective heat transfer that was happening as a result of the rock hard thermal paste.
While you're at it, you could also replace the CPU if you'd like, but I think it just isn't justified due to the minimal performance increase. Check this website out, it'll tell you all about upgrading your current chip to another. Your CPU is already powerful enough, so I wouldn't worry about upgrading.
If you need anymore help, feel free to DM me for more info on how to clean out your computer and I'll walk you through the process. Don't feel pressured into buying a new laptop all because it's overheating, it's a big waste of money IMO.
Good Luck!