Do you know which piece or pieces are receiving the most heat? If not, I highly recommend HWinfo. It was a godsend when trying to figure out what was heating up in my own case and I found out it was my video card.
It's a pretty easy and comprehensive tool! Best of luck on your path forward.
I assume you've researched the card well, but I'll still throw in some tips.
Should be known sooner than later, The author of HWiNFO mentioned that the deviation metric is available in HWiNFO v6.27-4185 Beta
I went back in time and looked at HWiNFO changelogs to find the first mention of Zen/Summit Ridge ~~in version v5.32 on 7 June 2016, 11 months before Ryzen went on sale:~~ >Enhanced preliminary AMD Zen support.
Later Edit: Actually, the first mention of Zen is older than than, it was in 14 October 2015 in version v5.06:
>Added preliminary recognition of AMD Zen (Summit Ridge, Raven Ridge).
There's a chance the pump died. Check your BIOS or use some reliable software like HWiNFO which will report your pump speeds. If it's 0 RPM then time to RMA that AIO.
Nice list. I would love ot add: Borderless Gaming It forces borderless fullscreen mode in games that dont have it.
https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming
I can also reccomend HWINFO if you want more detailed on-demand insight in your hardware status (temps, fan speeds, clocks, voltages, etc..). And by more detailed i mean this: http://imgur.com/a/27yTJ
Its like Speccy but in my setup i had issues with Speccy. Its also more lightweight and can by run without installation.
There is more but these two are on top of my mind now. :)
HWiNFO64 can monitor almost anything you want (example) and there's a RivaTuner plugin for an ingame overlay.
Read this: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Effective clocks provide an accurate indication of what the cores are doing, in my opinion.
Core clocks are like the top speed shown on your speedometer.
Well, that's your first problem.
Install: https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/amd_chipset_drivers_v1.07.07.0725.exe
Next, you need to use this one version of HWInfo64 that supports Ryzen 3000 fully:
https://www.hwinfo.com/files/hwi_609_3855.zip
... HWMonitor is garbage software, don't use it. Only use HWInfo64.
Open Hardware Monitor hasn't had a release since 2016 (so, no Ryzen support), and based on github activity it really hasn't seen much development at all in the intervening time even if you were to pull the code and build it yourself. HWInfo would be a better option, though it's not open source.
Skip MalwareBytes. Defender built into Windows is very good already. Leave it turned on.
Ram can be easily tested with MemTest86.
Can you recreate this crash? Perhaps the laptop overheated? Temps can be checked with HWiNFO64.Have you used any CPU/GPU tuning software? If yes, then open the software again and clear all set values to defaults.
Update Intel chipset+iGPU drivers and Nvidia drivers.
Don't use HWMonitor, as it's known to give bogus readings. Use HWiNFO instead.
If the temps are high in hwinfo as well, is your cooler installed correctly? If it's an aftermarket cooler, did you remove a plastic film if there was one?
Use HWInfo64 to monitor the "Tdie" temperature (actual temp at the processor die to the heat spreader that your cooler is sitting on). Once you open HWInfo64, click the "Sensors" button. "Tctl", which has a +10c offset, may be what you're seeing in Ryzen Master (I've not used Ryzen Master since a 1500X I setup last year, but it did report the Tctl at the time).
No, the mechanism was falsifying the current reading. Not the TDC or the EDC limits. The measurement, directly.
The CPU's FIT system, functionally, is a map of temperature to safe current, assuming some particular desired lifespan.
Falsify the current, and the CPU will request more voltage ("overvolting"), draw an un-safe current, and shorten its lifespan.
Might I followup with the original technical JPRS report, the Chernobyl Notebook, also written by Medvedev prior to writing the "truth about chernobyl".
Reading it made it clear how many levels of idiocy were involved in the disaster.
Make sure you're following your FIT voltage.
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Use HWiNFO instead of HWMon as HWiNFO is way better maintained and more accurate.
One thing where they mention about hardware monitors reporting nonsense numbers because they don't know about a particular bit of hardware, on PC there's huge amounts of variations on different parts, so the developers of the software need information to improve it.
HWinfo for certain will take reports generated by the application to get your sensors correct, and you can do so on the forum. When you see "Enhanced monitoring of..." in the changelog for a particular model, it's likely someone supplied the information needed.
They do look somewhat similar to Main Circulatory Pumps, and that might be it, however it is possible that these are in fact smaller Feed Pumps (below and beneath the MCPs), but they actually might be located underground.
Check out this post on the topic: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
> While this method still represents actual clock values and ratios reported match defined P-States, it has become insufficient to provide a good overview of CPU dynamics especially when parameters are fluctuating with a much higher frequency than any software is able to capture.
Basically, newer CPUs are so complex that software can’t really accurately measure their true performance using older methods (discrete clock speeds).
For example your CPU may boost up to 4.9 GHz for 1/10th of a second. Did it truly run at that speed? No, clock speeds are a measure of cycles per second, a processor that increased its speed to 4.9 GHz for 10% of a second while being turned off/idle for the other 90% of that second really only effectively ran at 490 MHz. Older programs showing discrete clock speeds however would show you 4.9 GHz instead.
Basically, effective clocks are the more ‘accurate’ way to measure a processor’s clock speeds as they increase in complexity.
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
all are good choices for monitoring software, try them out and stick with your favorite
In general, you can get different readings especially if you're using 2 different softwares at the same time, stick to one at a time. Otherwise it's actually reading 1.4V on vCore. I myself had issues on my Crosshair VI Hero, and one day found the CPU to kicking out so much heat, checked hwinfo and it was 1.7-1.8V, a restart and a bios flash fixed it.
I and most other people use HWiNFO64, CPU Core Voltage (SVI2 TFN) is what you should look for in general. If you really want to be precise, get yourself a multimeter and read it from the voltage points or socket.
Martin authour for HWiNFO talks about here , if you see a different voltage between what the motherboard and CPU is reading for voltage.
Every card is different and also have different memory (samsung, hynix, elpida, micron), but you should get around 12-14 Mhash with any RX 470/480/570/580
You can check which memory you have downloading GPU-Z (TechPowerUp)
This is my guide to OC in radeon software.
Base values for Samsung 1200 MHz / 930 V core 2000/850 memory
Hinyx 1050/920 core 1800/850 memory.
Download HWinfo, open it and run the miner, look closely (on hwinfo) if you get any memory errors for about 5 minutes, turn down the memory clock by 50 MHz. Close HWinfo and miner, then open both again and repeat. When you stop getting memory errors, let HWinfo running, and check after some hours.
The core have a peak performance, you have to find it, lets say you're at 1050 MHz, and getting 12 MHash, go up 50 to 1100 MHz and now you get 14 Mhash, then go up 50 (1150 MHz) and you get 12 Mhash again, the peak will be close to 1100 MHz, so then you go 10 by 10 up or down.
Great, I am also interested in that variant. Unfortunately I couldn't order as amazon doesn't deliver in my city due to lockdown. I am waiting for stocks to arrive offline stores.
Can you post screenshots of detailed specs using something like HWiNFO? I am interested to know the model number of the lcd panel they are used in Indian variant. Also what is the 512GB SSD they are using? Thanks
Alright mate here's what I want you to do so we can actually help you instead of trying to assume off of the back of your IO.
Download either
or
Upload a screenshot of the summary page in either of them to imgur and link me & the rest of the thread to the screen then we'll be able to determine what your setup is and go from there.
Roger?
Sounds like everything is running fine, so I believe you can put your worries to rest. For peace of mind, you can install some monitoring software like HWiNFO, MSI Afterburner or CPU-Z/ GPU-Z that you can pull up occasionally to check info on you equipment. You can set it up so you have temperature gauges that show on your task bar or integrate into other desktop monitoring HUDs. You can also get FPS, clockspeed, temperatures, etc to display during games via RivaTuner (which you can set to a hotkey to turn on and off as you please).
Just so you have an idea of what I'm talking about, this is what a setup with HWiNFO might look like. You'll have displays for current, high, and low numbers as well as graphs. This way you can see if your machine is hitting any particular stress points and for how long.
Ryzen Master shows effective clock speeds, which is different to what CPU-Z reports. You can check them on HWInfo too if you use the sensors-only option at launch. To understand the differences read this link.
About the lines you mark on the picture, the top "peak speed" shows the highest effective clockspeed in that precise moment, while the lower one shows the peak speed achieved over a period of time (from the histogram).
Zen2 chiplets don't hit 5GHz without LN2. You'll be very lucky for 4.5 GHz single-core or 4.0 all-core without subambient and without dangerous voltages. Stock performance sees the 3990X somewhere between 3.2GHz and 3.5GHz all-core
When unbound by power/current/temperature limits Zen2 cores will happily hit 10 watts (per core), and and sometimes hit closer to 15 watts depending on the load. You're looking at 500-1000 watts.
Play with PBO first and see how you go.
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Use HWiNFO for sensor monitoring, if you are not already.
You should download this program (HWiNFO) https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
It will allow you to monitor almost every component... To include your ram, m.2 drives, etc., And it will tell you the average temps over a period of time, so you'll know what happens when you're sleeping.
Do you also have a RX 6000 series GPU? The author has released 6.43 Beta that fixed the issue. I used to have the WHEA error all the time until I saw this thread on the HWinfo forum.
I have updated and so far not a single WHEA error for a week.
You mentioned your fans are at full speed, I'd say either your CPU cooler/fan has shifted and isn't contacting the CPU properly or the thermal compound has dried out. You can monitor temps with hwinfo.
If the compound has dried out keep your PC in low power mode if the temps are safe at that level and get some compound. There's plenty of application videos on youtube. MX-4 is affordable and good.
The hwinfo author explains it differently as I said measured by the vrm not the cpu
CPU Core Voltage (SVI2 TFN) value is the voltage measured by Voltage Regulator, which is supplied to the CPU (as VRM output)
https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Ryzen-CPU-Voltage-explanation
Speccy is shit and I wouldn't trust anything by Piriform anymore. Use hwinfo64 instead.
The game at the moment performs like shit and you could wait for the upcoming performance patch and hope it will fix your issues. But nevertheless it is possible that something is wrong with your system.
Like mentioned below, open your case and remove the dust, clean the fans. After that check your temperatures with a tool like HWinfo. Just start the tool in "Sensor Only" mode and observe your temperatures while/after playing. Are the CPU/GPU temperatures above healthy temps and is your system throttling down due to overheating? Search the internet for your CPU/GPU and what temperatures should be normal for your setup.
Since you have mentioned that you changed your GPU you should make a clean reinstall of your drivers. Use DisplayDriverUninstall for that, remove the old driver and reinstall the latest. Maybe also check if you need to upgrade your chipset, sounds, etc. drivers as well. You could use something like Snappy Driver Installer for that.
The best way to get rid of software/driver problems would be to just reinstall Windows though.
Yea, see Martins (Dev of HWInfo) comment on that: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-ASUS-Prime-X470-Pro-Fan-headers-shutting-down-after-a-while-when-running-HWiNFO?pid=18244#pid18244 > ASUS continued investigation and developed an alternate solution that should completely fix this problem. We spent a lot of time with them working on this, I was directly involved in this process. We came with a solution, which however wasn't yet released by ASUS as part of an official BIOS. So HWiNFO has support for this already, but you will need to wait for ASUS to release the fixed BIOS.
On paper the x370 pro looked really good when I got it but the software and bios situation was a shitshow in the beginning, now its better but still bad.
The processor is actually great at throttling such that it doesn't overheat, so you might not notice it. You can use HWINFO to check if you're actually throttling at any given moment :)
Something like Unigine Valley or 3dMark on a loop.
You can check for temps and whether the thermal limit is reached by using HWInfo64.
Links: https://benchmark.unigine.com/valley https://www.hwinfo.com/
Also, check out the thermals section of this review: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/14529-dell-xps-15-9560-review/
Kernel Power is a somewhat generic error given when the computer shuts down unexpectedly.
Many AMD CPUs have some heat issues; I'd suggest downloading some monitoring software like HWiNFO and watching your CPU temperatures while playing, if you haven't already. Aside from that, I'd suggest checking your cable connections between components, and making sure your PSU supplies enough power for your components.
I myself have actually had a very similar problem with an AMD FX 8350, which ended up being caused by overheating despite the CPU performing well otherwise.
I am curious what your memory error count on this mem OC is. I wouldn't be surprised if it is millions per minutes. At least, that is what i get when i try to overclock more then 2100 with only 1 volt.
Take a look at the memory errors with HWInfo64.
You can determine this yourself by downloading HwINFO and checking the "number of bank groups" [screenshot].
2 bank groups = 1Rx16
4 bank groups = 1Rx8
I would check if there might be something else related to the PC rather then being Strive specific. I would run some stress tests and see if these problems occur during testing or if you get unusually high temps.
HWiNFO for diagnostics (mostly temp check) and Prime95 for CPU tests and FurMark for testing the GPU.
Link to HWiNFO
Link to Prime95
Link to FurMark
And if your temps are belowe 100°C (lower is preferred but the parts should function at this temp) so should your PC be fine. Run both at the same time for about the time it takes for your issues on Strive to appear.
And if you find no issues with these tools so could it be your DDR memory which can be faulty/damaged and then so can you test it with Memtest86 but i am not as experienced with that program/tool.
Other than that so could it be your primary storage disc (SSD/HDD) or maybe your power supply unit but i am not sure how you should go about testing such a component.
Entendi.
Além das sugestões do tópico, era bom você ver como está a questão da temperatura do processador e da placa de vídeo. Se estiver esquentando demais, o sistema abaixa a performance automaticamente para evitar danos por sobreaquecimento.
HWiNFO fornece praticamente todas as informações do seu PC além de detalhes de sensores, como rotação de ventoinha e termômetros.
Where are you checking that speed? Cpuz/taskmanager probably right? Dont look at that, thats just the discrete clock speed/ratio the cpu is running at.
Download ryzen master or hwinfo to check the effective clockspeeds.
You can read more here:
https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Most likely temperature problem.
Download HWInfo, and check temperatures while you are gaming.
Best way to tell if it's heating problem is to stress test CPU and GPU, with softwares like Prime95(CPU) and Furemark(GPU), that will immediately tell you what's wrong.
We need more info. Download HWiNFO here:
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
Run it, check Sensors-only
, then click on Run. Maximize the window and click on the Expand button on the bottom left until all the rows are shown without vertical scrollbars. It should look like this:
https://i.imgur.com/baSxp6k.jpg
Run the game and while in-game, take a screenshot of HWiNFO and share it with us.
Also, if you didn't disable it, press Win+G to bring up the Xbox Game Bar. At the middle top, click the button for Performance
to open the performance widget, then click on the FPS tab. Take a picture of this (unfortunately it won't be captured in a screenshot) and share it with us to confirm the FPS stutters. It should look like this:
I am on my phone right now so I am a bit limited and don't have access to my screenshot and log files. But you can check the thread if you are curious.
As you can see on page two, lots of components got RMA'd because people thought they had a hardware issue. I ended up purchasing a second PSU, motherboard and CPU to troubleshoot. In the end I gave the new system to my girlfriend, so not the end of the world, but very frustrating experience.
Please restest with HWINFO64.
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HWMONITOR is not good at giving correct information on ryzen.
Also for that mater get ryzen master an see what that says
Ryzen Master is the official AMD tool. It reports a rolling average CPU temperature. Hwinfo64 shows various temperature sensors. It isn't about which one is right it's about understanding what the values mean.
If you want to simply know how hot is the CPU as a whole then Ryzen Master temp is fine or it should be very similar to CPU Die average in HWinfo.
Check out this post from the hwinfo forums. Second comment, user Zach. The information still applies to 5000 series CPUs.
" Ryzen3000 has more than 50 temp sensors around the core Die (CCD).CPU (Tctl/Tdie) is the hotspot of the CPU and its switching (a few hundred times within a sec) between all sensors and report constantly the highest one. No other CPU do that. Only ZEN2.Die (average) is the average value of all sensors combined togetherCCD1 (Tdie) is reporting one single sensor at some edge of the core Die
In general all those 3 reports are true but reporting different things. We can say that CCD1 or Die(average) is more of the traditional CPU temp reporting. But Tctl/Tdie is important too as this is the one controling the fan of CPU cooler (hence Tctl=Tcontrol). Tctl/Tdie is up and down constantly and it is normal. "
I found the answer to that here
> The 'perf#" values denote the Core Performance Order index. I added this information into sensors as I think it might be useful for checking core utilization/clock with respect to the favored cores order.
If there are 2 numbers shown (perf# 1/2), then:
- The first number specifies the CPPC order as defined by the firmware via to Windows. This is available on AMD Zen2 CPUs with latest firmware and Windows 10 and it's the order that's used by Windows scheduler.
- The second number specifies the favored core order defined by hardware
The picture and post title question alone, don't provide enough information for anyone to give you meaningful input.
I would delete everything you have there and install HWinfo and MSI afterburner instead. First one will tell you every possible statt of your PC. Most of which you would never need. And second one is the most popular tool to overclock your GPU. Since you are running Ryzen I would suggest downloading Ryzen Master and overclock your CPU using it. But I mich more prefer bios overclocking then software (for CPU)
HWinfo link MSI afterburner link Ryzen Master link
P.S check and make sure that you are running the latest bios revision for your motherboard, and all the latest drivers for everything you have
Land map of the CPU is here. The map info is on page 126 onwards. That looks like it is a VCC pin (a power supply pin). If this is correct then you may see issues with high loads or OCing.
Myself I would run it in a system under duress. Use Intel burn test on the second highest setting to give it a good run for the its money. Watch for voltage drops on the CPU with HWINFO. By voltage drops I don't mean read out fluctuation. You will see the voltage fluctuate with normal running. If the CPU finds it has ran out of power it should downclock, so HWinfo will show the frequency drop off. Or it will fail under IBT output window.
You could try adding a touch more voltage to compensate, but if the pin is a direct link, then it is a lost cause.
HWiNFO64 is the best hardware monitoring software for Windows (especially for Ryzen). Run it with sensors enabled and you should be able to monitor every hardware sensor in your PC as well as be able to monitor CPU, GPU and memory frequency in real time.
BTW if you haven't already you should update your BIOS. BIOS updates on AM4 often bring microcode updates (refereed to as A.G.E.S.A) which improve performance and stability so it's important to keep your BIOS up to date.
Have you installed a monitoring tool like HWiNFO (https://www.hwinfo.com/)? That can tell you if your CPU or GPU is running at 100% and is bottlenecking your other components.
I think the thermal limit for an i7 3770 is 100° so 70-80 shouldn't be a problem.
I had a similar issue on my MSI laptop. For me, Edge/Chrome/Opera were OK but Firefox just couldn't maintain 60fps for fullscreen videos. Not just 4k videos - any video upscaled to 4k, regardless of source quality. My SO's laptop was a very similar model but 12 months older, and did not have any issues on any browser, Fx included.
In the end I found that my laptop had a single 16GB stick of RAM, whereas my SO's older model had two 8GB sticks. We both had the same Intel CPU, HD 530 graphics. Same drivers. Same 4k screen.
As such, my iGPU was handicapped running in single-channel memory mode, halving the available memory bandwidth. It wasn't just video that was affected. It actually caused Firefox to also scroll much less smoothly when the window was bigger - always at about 3/4 of screen size or larger, at which point it seemed to run out of memory bandwidth. The problem also existed in other browsers but was just so much less pronounced, I hadn't noticed. They're more efficient, it seems, especially for video.
Anyway, adding a second compatible RAM stick solved the problem completely for me, with my iGPU happily chugging along in dual channel mode and everything buttery smooth again.
I'm still a bit pissed off though. MSI sold me a laptop which could not properly power its own 4k display, just so they could market the laptop as "upgradeable to 32gb" with a single 16gb stick.
Try downloading HWINFO64 and it will tell you if your iGPU is running in single- or dual-channel memory mode. The former just isn't properly 4k-capable.
Provide detailed specs. You can use HWinfo64 or 32 tool (https://www.hwinfo.com/) to get correct stats in one screenshot.
Provide the game version, it is displayed in the main menu left bottom corner.
99% of cases with this "freeze" is people with minimum or lower than minimum specs or laptops
Operational temp >< 70/85 degrees.
Mine don't peak over 40 accept for during long gaming sessions when 45 is about as high as they go... this says as much about temps in the case as the NVME's to be fair...
I think it was Linus who did a video showing that keeping the temps to low can be detrimental to their performance much in the same way GPU's are designed to run at a specific temp around 50-60 and fans will remain low until this temp has been reached. With this in mind, over cooling the component could actually reduce performance whilst not brining any benefit.
With heatsinks being so easy to install I would suggest the the sensible answer here is to get it in your machine, install HardWareInfo and see what your actual temps are. This really is a case of money for no tangible benefit.
Unless of course you really want some more shiney pretty to look at on your motherboard in which case, quit beating around the bush and find whatever NVME cooler tickles your fancy the most because lets be honest, half the pleasure of building is putting together what you think looks good and they are cheap enough and have enough visual impact... I've even considered them just because they look shiney :D
HWinfo is a great tool that you can run in the background, my suspicions are you are hitting a thermal throttling issue.
You could possibly be running out of memory and hitting the page file too as it swaps textures around.
Cool, I think that's a reasonable approach. If you encounter problems down the road, then you can always get that Intel AX210 to replace the Realtek.
Regarding your question about RAM... have you checked to see if you have 1Rx8 sticks? My L7 came with 1Rx8 sticks and I get ~26.5k in Firestrike in 1600p resolution (30.4k graphics, 27.1k physics, 13.3k combined).
You can check your RAM specs via HWinfo64, which is a free software: https://www.hwinfo.com/. If you have two sticks of 16GB 1Rx8 RAM, then you have "good" RAM, which you can determine by seeing "4 rank groups" vs. "2 rank groups". The "bad" RAM will give you "2 rank groups". Early on, especially after Jerrod's video came out, it was thought that single- vs. dual- rank drovethe difference in performance but after reading some posts here, it seems like single-rank is acceptable if it has 4 rank groups (as opposed to 2 rank groups) and even the number of rank groups has limited negative effect when you're running above 1080p due to the GPU becoming the bottleneck. The native resolution of the L7 screen is 1600p so performance should be fine with 1Rx8 sticks.
This is again a case of "run it first and then spend the $ to upgrade if you determine current performance to be lacking". Give 3dMark Firestrike a go and we can see what results you get.
As always, as long as you ensure all fans are working and both fans and case are clean of dust and if your system is older than 5 years, consider reapplying thermal paste to the CPU, but 80° is not too hot for a CPU running at 100%.
As to usage statistics o the GPU (and CPU), you haven't said what OS you're using, but in Windows for instance, if you're checking the Performance tab in Task Manager, that is not a true representation of what's going on.
You can use programs like HWiNFO (https://www.hwinfo.com/) to get more accurate temperature and usage statistics.
First off all dont use NZXT CAM to monitor your Temps, its known to be bad and the temperatures are inaccurate.
Use HwInfo64: https://www.hwinfo.com
And the reason why your temps are so high are:
H510 Elite has bad airflow and is not optimal for AIOs since the only place Radiators above 120mm can fit is the front and there the fans cant breathe because the H510 Elite has basically no intake pared with horrible fans (AER RGB 2)
x63 isnt the best performing AIO combined with the "issues" stated above
Cinebench uses AVX so its kinda expected to have high temperatures and i wouldnt worry about it. You are probably never going to see those temps while playing games.
And yes you can get better temperatures in this build by remove the front panel or by replacing it with a Mesh front. Both are valid options but at the end of the day its up to you.
That's pretty bad. CPU and RAM can be viewed from Control Panel > System, the GPU is under "Display adapters" in Control Panel > Device Manager. Everything can also be checked from the task manager's performance tab, at least in Win10 (I don't remember how it was before). Otherwise just install and run HwInfo' system summary.
This is my guide to OC in radeon software, since every card is different and also have different memory (samsung, hynix, elpida, micron). You can check which memory you have downloading GPU-Z (TechPowerUp)
Base values for Samsung 1200 MHz / 930 mV core 2000/850 memory
Hinyx 1050/920 core 1800/850 memory.
Download HWinfo, open it and run the miner (TeamRedMiner), look closely (on hwinfo) if you get any memory errors for about 5 minutes, turn down the memory clock by 50 MHz. Close HWinfo and miner, then open both again and repeat. When you stop getting memory errors, let HWinfo running, and check after some hours.
The core have a peak performance, you have to find it, lets say you're at 1050 MHz, and getting 12 MHash, go up 50 to 1100 MHz and now you get 14 Mhash, then go up 50 (1150 MHz) and you get 12 Mhash again, the peak will be close to 1100 MHz, so then you go 10 by 10 up or down.
Keep an eye on your temps is the first thing to do really. Make sure it isn't floating at 95c or thermal throttling under load. If it isn't doing that then you're good.
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ is a good place to start. GPUz might be worth grabbing also.
First off, check your temperatures using HWinfo64
Just run it at boot and leave it running, looking every now and then.
Second, post your PC specs here, please.
It might be worth checking what shows up in HWInfo.
In addition to installing the Realtek driver for your motherboard's on-board audio, you probably should install the motherboards chipset drivers. If that doesn't fix the problem, you might want to upgrade your motherboard's BIOS to the latest version. On my last two builds, I've had problems, one of which was audio related, fixed by updating the BIOS.
Also, if you are willing to re-install Windows, could you try running Linux on your machine? If the audio is detected on Linux, then it probably not a hardware problem and just a configuration somewhere in Windows or a driver problem? I recommend Ubuntu 21.04 since its pretty recent and popular it should come with generic audio drivers for you motherboard audio chipset built in.
You can always check temperatures inside the OS to see how much of a difference you'll get. There are freeware for that. I recommend this one.
Typically you want the air flowing in specific directions. To that end you'd want the side panel on as to not let out any air that way. If you care much about temperatures then you might want to look into another desk unless you can move the PC to a more open area. Try to avoid carpets.
Considering that it is a 980ti(and is 6years old) I would buy a tube of decent Thermal Paste open up the card and respaste it. But first download https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ and check if the reading is still 93 degrees
Don't worry about it.
It's a known anomaly on most asus 550 570 boards.
https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/temp-2-temp-5-asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus.6582/
Look at your effective clock instead.
https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Thats only the CPU and RAM, not enough.,i assume you opened control panel to check .So here is how to check your hardware.
Install hardware info ,https://www.hwinfo.com/ this will tell you EVERY single thing about your computer,and all you have to do is run the app and share a photo with us.
I am not undervolting anything.
Believe me I am an expert with hardware and know what is a bios option.
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Try allocating less memory (maybe 2g) since windows and background programs will take up a significant portion of the 8gb of ram. You can also download a monitoring software like hwinfo64 and see if any of your components are thermal throttling, which would reduce performance.
You can download HWinfo64 which will tell you the names and models of basically every part of the PC.
I would assume the GIS software you use is mostly CPU-heavy, and you might be fine keeping the old GPU, but I'm not familiar enough with it to say for sure.
> I appreciate your excellent response to this. Have you read the book by Nikolai Karpan, and do you recall the title? In Russian and Google Translate:
https://www.hwinfo.com/Chernobyl/Documents/Karpan.html
The theory that only 5% of the fuel remains in the reactor is no longer particularly credible, since a lot more corium was located since Checherov's day. However, many are suspicious a lot less than 95% of it is still in the building.
Have you tried looking at the back or bottom of the monitor, there should be a serial/model there.
Or the OSD Menu of the monitor.
You can also try device manager and advanced display settings.
The app HWInfo64 can also help.
Here's a link to The Stilt's thread
ASUS seem to be doing it as well. I get 90-80% deviation, meaning my motherboard is under-reporting power consumption by 10-20%.
It's not as bad as some of the boards out there at 75%, but it explains why I've had trouble cooling my 3950x with a custom loop. CPU is pushing out 160-180w of heat instead of 142w.
its the cpu. more power draw = more heat.
a few things for you to look into.
- get a temp monitoring program. https://www.hwinfo.com/ is free and very well done. that way you can see what the actual temps are. the computer heating up is normal and it may actually be doing a fine job at moving the heat from the cpu to the fan.
-look into undervolting. ive not done it myself on a t440p but ive read that its possible. the idea is the bios is feeding the cpu more power then it really needs and if you tune it down a bit, Less power draw = lower temps.
Thank you for your answers. Meanwhile I found a similar thread somewhere else and it had the same answers (Curious that I couldn't find nobody with this problem, but when I wrote '3750h hwinfo' on google, it was the first result). - https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/detects-wrong-cpu.5951/
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This is going to be my last ASUS product from now on. I've had this laptop for a week+ and so far i've encountered the following problems
- Blacklight bleeding (But this seems more like a standard feature than a common issue)
- Squealing space key after 10 days of use
- Screw rolling around inside the laptop
- Different CPU (?) - This is a bit debatable tho. Which one came first? Is 3750h always a tuned 3700U or 3700U is a de-tuned 3750H? Are they two different identifiable physical objects? I doubt it tho since both got the same part number.
don't worry about the speccy one, it's borked with ryzen. use hwinfo https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
tho i will say that the ryzen master one seems weirdly low to me with the stock cooler? maybe i'm wrong, but my ryzen 5 would get pretty hot before i installed an after market air cooler, and still gets to 65c or so under load with a 212 evo. But i wouldn't worry about it either way i guess.
Steve from GamersNexus has said a few times that the maximum operating temperature for GDDR6 in Navi cards is 105° instead of 95° (because of the position of the sensor or something similar.)
The author of HWiNFO also said the same a couple of months ago: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/memory-temperature-5700xt.5867/
Still a terrible result for Asus compared to other cards, but apparently within spec.
Nothing in the Event View screenshot is worthy of note and since this has continued after a fresh install it is more likely to be a hardware related issue.
I would try upgrading to the latest BIOS. Yours is from late 2017.
If that doesn't help then see if there is an option to enable XMP to at least get your memory running at 3000 MHz.
The CPU could be thermal throttling. Check temps using HWiNFO.
Chernobyl Notebook is the book that dedicates by far the most time to that night and is probably my personal favourite of them all, though it gets multiple little details wrong. You can download a scanned copy here (it's long out of print) but its also available as an ebook from Amazon.
I guess it would be remiss of me not to recommend my own book Chernobyl 01:23:40 which also spends a fair amount of time on what happened.
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Get HWINFO to monitor your temps. Run it in sensors mode.
Hit the button in between the clock and cog to log to a file. Run Unigine Superpositon 1080p extreme.
My Nitro+ 570 stock gets 2391.
Upload your log file, so we can see any issues.
Wattage means nothing if it is not a quality PSU. What is the brand and model?
You may need to look into whether your motherboard's VRMs can handle the higher-end FX CPUs correctly.
Check temperatures in-game/under load with a program like Speccy or HWInfo via Sensors Summary. Is the CPU above 70+ (AMD, TDie not Tctl) or 80+ (Intel)? Is the GPU above 80? If so, confirm the fans are running and clean the PC of dust (lazy method: tissues on fans, tweezers / skewers for heatsinks). If problem persists, re-apply thermal paste between CPU and heatsink, and confirm firm contact.
The noise is almost definitely coming from your fans as your PC heats up. You can damage your PC if it gets too hot, but it will probably throttle itself or shut down before that happens.
You can download software to monitor your temperatures. A popular one is hwinfo54: https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
If you want to reduce your temperatures or noise, you can change the intensity of the Folding@Home client from Full to Medium or Light.
>Do you plan on actually using the beta feature (which the current CAM already has) to avoid the catastrophe of the 3.6.X software?
You can definitely expect more gradual, opt-in beta releases in the future before a larger release.
>Do you plan on adding system tray status icons for temperatures/any stat? This was requested a long time ago in the CAM requests but it was closed with a "We'll look into it". For implimentation, just look at how HWInfo handles this.
Certainly a possibility!
>Another user asked about a CAM lite version but have you considered the possibility of a module install? The user can select which features they want to install. I have no need for your GPU overclocking and just want the software required to control my lights and fan/pump speeds.
There will be major updates to CAM's UI/UX that should help keep the things not relevant to you out of view.
>Are these numbers valid? If so, how much did NZXT purchase Forge for?
The numbers on how much money we raised from investors is correct, but we haven't publicly disclosed the terms of our acquisition.
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The last time I heard anything about using Corsair Link with HWiNFO64, the interlocks the software (Corsair Link) uses to poll data from the SMBus/motherboard/CPU sensors were in direct conflict with the generally accepted global values every other software uses (HWiNFO64 for example). This was stated as a "won't fix" due to it breaking Corsair Link functionality with their Light Loop Fans. Source here.
Since iCUE is an integrated Corsair Link/Corsair Utility Engine, and can essentially control all Corsair hardware, I imagine this holds true that the locks are still not using the globally accepted mutex locks. Essentially, this means using iCUE and ignoring other software, or closing iCUE when using other monitoring software, including the related Services iCUE depends on in Task Manager.
You can disable/remove the HWiNFO64 driver and maybe resolve this issue. Make sure the Persistent Driver checkbox isn't selected under Driver Management in the Settings.
Mumak (Martin), the HWiNFO developer's thoughts on Corsair/iCUE are HERE - Playing Nice With Corsair iCUE? on the HWiNFO Forums.
Not in this build, but in a previous one from the Stress Tests I had a very similar issue. The game just feezes, but In my case, I could not even alt tab. I had to log out from the keyboard (special key for that) and restart absolutely everything (Steam, Dayz, etc.).
It was due some audio drivers that created a conflict with the enviroment sounds of Dayz (Seconds before the freeze, the audio just faded away). So I would suggest you to try this alternatives:
Its usually a driver issue, but I leave you there other alternatives that worked for other people.
That sounds more like a driver crash to me.
You could check your actual temperatures with tools like HWiNFO64.
You can also try to reinstall your nvidia driver.
Download it from here: https://www.geforce.com/drivers
Remove your old driver with: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
If you don't get bluescreens or errors in P95 then it's fine. The x264 test is recommended to be run at 16 threads (regardless of core count I'm told), normal priority or above normal, for however many loops you feel comfortable running. And most people try to go as low as they can on voltage once they hit a clockspeed they like. I'm a lazy fuck so once I find a voltage I'm comfy with temps at, as long as it's under 1.40VCore for 24/7 use it's fine.
The real reason people use P95 is because of mainly two things:
A) It runs hot as fuck and is a good way to check your cooler's performance for issues like bad thermal paste application or dead/bad AIO, etc.
B) If your OC is on the edge of stability, with minor problems, P95 will error out without BSODing you.
That's basically it.
CPU-Z is good for validating it's running at what you set, but use monitoring sw like HWinfo64 is commonly recommended, and has my own recommendation behind it as well.
90C is my personal limit for benching. If it's solid above 90C like 93-95C during the entirety of the test then I'll back it off. >95C gets me backing it off immediately.
If you decide you want to delid and want no frills service, https://siliconlottery.com is a great resource for that. $45 USD to delid your 8086K only, with no binning (Determines the maximum OC potential of your chip).
As far as trying to cut your temps, you do you. It's seemingly stable where it's at, you can leave it and be lazy like I would, or you can try to trim the voltage a bit more. :P
> Speccy
I've used Hwinfo. It's pretty good and I'm not aware of any shenanigans about it. It even has a portable version that you can firewall preventing it from ever contacting outside your system should you want to.
>I don’t know what temperatures my shit should be at so I haven’t really looked. Please help.
Install hwinfo64 https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
Play your games until the dips start happening and then check max cpu and gpu temps.
Above 90c on either one is bad and can cause throttling. Throttling can then cause the fps dips you described.
Make sure your PCI power cables are properly connected to your graphics card, and that the video input of your monitor is connected to the graphics card, not the mobo.
Update GPU drivers, and see if that fixes it. If not, run a temperature logging software (such as HWiNFO) while you play and see if temps are getting too high. This shouldn't be the case, unless FPS starts out high then drops mid-game
i don`t think it is any fan problem related, because even if your fan isnt spinning at all you should not be getting 90c at idle, i bet it is thermal paste problem, do you still got thermal paste that you can reapply from when you build your pc?
download this: https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
monitor your temps
Build 17025 has worked well for me.
Just did some quick math and realize you are only getting 26MH/s per GPU, that is low for those cards, you should be getting 30+. Patch the BIOS on your cards once you get your rig stable, but disregard the pixel patcher until you do (pixel patcher only help with BIOS modded cards).
I don't have any experience with that mobo so I can't help you with it but there may well be some BIOS settings that you need to modify before you can get 5 cards to run, etc. Maybe someone else with experience with this mobo can offer more advice on that.
I think before anyone will be able to give you any more specific advice you will need to do some more troubleshooting. Change card/riser configurations until you can reproduce it, narrow down what component is failing. Is it the GPU, the riser, the PCIe on the mobo (is it the x1 or the x16)? Isolate what component is causing issues before troubleshooting.
You are most certainly overclocking your GPUs too much which ~~could be~~ is leading to some of your system instability.
> ...shutdown/reboot, then once it loads into windows black screen
That is overly aggressive memory clocks. Use HWiNFO to tune your GPUs so they don't throw any GPU errors and that black screen (along with other "mysterious") will go away. I tune my new GPUs individually on a Windows 10 box dedicated to do just that.
You replaced hardware (AMD cpu/mobo) that wasn't causing the problems you were trying to fix.
Ah you have an unstable OC. Provided all your hardware is installed correctly you need to increase voltage to get stability. Since it runs and BSODs every once in a while, use something like HWiNFO to check your core voltage, SoC voltage, DDR voltage, and any other voltage you can adjust in bios. Then set them manually in bios a little higher than that and see if you're stable. You can also bump the Load Line Calibration for CPU and SoC up a bit and see if it helps. Some limits I try to stick to for Ryzen overclocking for daily use are:
vcore < 1.4v, vSoC < 1.2v, vDDR < 1.45v, and LLC set as low as I can and still be stable.
>Are folks using the "conductonaut" liquid metal in their PCs and what are the use-cases?
Not to use with aluminum based coolers and while it damages copper based coolers as well, it's not as bad as aluminum. Use only with nickel based ones, mainly for delidded cpu application. In other words, your NT-H1 is fine.
Use HWinfo64, under CPU, find the CPU (Tctl/Tdie) temperature. Stress it as well (use whatever stress program you care) and see the max load temperatures as well.
Post them here.
edit: thermal paste application doesn't really matter, just in the case where the chip is huge like yours, you should put more.