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Unfortunately I think you’re a bit lost. But I think this might be able to help you. I don’t really know much on computers myself (I use a MacBook), but i suppose use link.
Hope you find what you need my dude!
The case supports up to E-ATX motherboards, but I would focus on the ATX sized motherboards. It will give you some more space to work with and not look out of place. These should provide some examples to consider. The concerns when picking a motherboard are: is my cpu type supported, could I find the ram on the manufacturers website confirming support, and if you have intentions to overclock your components. I believe you should be able to find support for that DDR4-3200 kit in most of the options, but make sure to check the motherboard compatibility on their website and/or this checker
Look at your motherboard’s QVL to find your memory modules and supported configurations.
If you can’t find them then that may be the issue. Ryzen is extremely picky about memory and it is also extremely picky when it comes to supported configurations. The higher the memory capacity (and you’re running 64 GB which is quite high), typically the lower the speed it would run. 3200 MT/s is the maximum supported speed your processor is capable of running only in certain configurations. You may need to drop the speed below 3200 to see if it works, 3000, 2933 etc.
Aside from that, ensure your BIOS is updated as this can definitely help.
Unless you're having issues with it or need a USB 3.2 type C header for front panel, WIFI or Bluetooh, no make or break. Here's a full list of differences:
>Intel had supply issues even pre-pandemic
It had them pre-pandemic, due to fab issues, you're talking generations of CPUs back. There has been no major shortage during the pandemic, which is notable among the tech manufacturers.
>11600k took months to become readily available at MSRP
Just by looking at the QVL for RAM and that MOBO, I'm not seeing CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 as supported Ram
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus/ram?c=Vermeer#cc - Source Search used
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I couldnt find the official MSI site QVL list because everythings so buried in fluff on their site
The thing that sucks right now is how expensive GPUs are. It’s really left budget gamers in a lurch. You can look for a Craig’s List deal on an older system, even something with like a 1060/1070/1080 is worth looking at right now. Hell some of the guys over on r/pcmasterrace have been going for 900 series cards just because it’s been so hard to get anything newer.
The Ryzen 5 3400G is a really nice CPU if you decide to build yourself. It has the integrated Vega 11 graphics. Not amazing by any stretch of the imagination but better than Intel graphics solutions and you’ll at least be playing older stuff and e-sports stuff like League fairly well.
Some builds: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-build/amd-ryzen-5-3400g
If you can nick the GPU itself on eBay without overpaying, another popular trick at the bottom end is to put it in an old Dell Optiplex. Organizations are always selling their retired Optiplexes on eBay for around $80-$100. With that you get a 5-6 year old computer with your graphics card added in. It’s not amazing but it will run games and can be done for $400-$500 or less if luck is on your side.
Can get a monitor from Walmart for like $100. As long as you’ve got 1080p don’t worry to much about refresh rate, etc. You don’t have enough cash to buy a card that can take advantage of high refresh rate.
Depends on what exactly you want from the case. Here's a link comparing the specs for both if you haven't already found it.
Edit: key differences I see are max gpu length and drive bay count
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/case/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-vs-phanteks-eclipse-p400a
https://pangoly.com/en/review/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/compatibility/motherboard
This says MSI B450M Mortar has supported 5600x since BIOS 7B89v1H, Which is the beta version on your MOBO's support page (released like 2 months ago).
the site could be wrong though, but here's a post about the BIOS update: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/mzhrko/msi\_release\_agesa\_1202\_bios\_for\_msi\_b450\_non\_max/
Ok gotcha, yep that'll likely be caused as you say by streaming and playing the game simultaneously. I just had to check if your board is compatible with 9th Gen intel processors beyond the 9100 you're sporting, but it is (https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-prime-h310m-e/compatibility/cpu).
The chip above the i5 9600k is the i7 9700k, that's hopping from 6 cores up to 8 cores, but with gaming performance practically unchanged. It will be useful if you're a fan of doing something like having YouTube playing whilst streaming a game but otherwise it's a tad redundant. So I'd probably stick with the 9600k and look for upgrades in other areas with the remaining budget :)
I just looked it up here and they are super super similar.
The ZOTAC is 2cm smaller so that might be a factor depending on your case. You should keep what you have, at least it's in your hands now.
I don't think they'd change tech a ton other than maybe implementing some small number of patented-protected ideas or techs that they couldn't previously
I think it's much more likely you'll see ARM tech marketed and sold in ways NVIDIA has sold some of their stuff for years. Closed-sourcing acceleration tech, paying software devs to favor their hardware and cripple competitors', pushing reviewers of their tech to focus their reviews on proprietary technology performance, etc.
Nvidia's been better about this sort of thing over the last few years but it's much easier to get away with this stuff in the OEM world that ARM exists in where fewer people are watching and where corporate buyers are less likely to vote with their dollar and more likely to take the lowest/most aggressive bidder.
Mostly speculation on my part, can't possibly know for sure what the future looks like, just not personally a fan of how they've done things historically from a consumer-facing standpoint.
there is a white RMx 850W - it's on the PSU tab and on Amazon. I just checked and apparently if you choose that one it will have +6 molex connectors. It is a bit more expensive probably because of the colour mostly. https://pangoly.com/en/compare/psu/f3035e49-eece-e811-af11-000d3a203535,85f8f07e-be78-e911-a947-000d3a0da064
I started by looking for cases that would accommodate the specific GPU. I found this:
https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-rog-strix-geforce-rtx-2060-advanced-6g/compatibility/case
But I do not know if it is accurate, That is definitely one thing I need to confirm first
Here is a great comparison list on the two https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-vs-asus-rog-strix-b450-f. Hope it helps! :)
Here's the comparison of aorus pro vs elite
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/298c8556-47a6-e911-a949-000d3a0da064,fea623af-46a6-e911-a949-000d3a0da064
Pro has SLI support (dual nvidia graphics card configuration), built in WiFi and up to 4400mhz memory overclock instead of just 4000mhz from elite
If you think you wont use the features then just get the elite
https://pangoly.com/en/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition-8gb/price-history
Take a look at price history. If youre lucky and spam that F5 you might get a founders at msrp through Nvidia lol.
Really it all comes down to personal preference, for me it would be the MSI. There are some differences but they may not be enough to sway you one way or another.
Here is a website where you can compare them side by side https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/39c76070-b5b7-ea11-a95c-000d3a0da064,8fa693c0-b5b7-ea11-a95c-000d3a0da064,92ce47f9-3fbc-ea11-a95c-000d3a0da064
> !EDIT: I also didn't know this is press your luck! lol
I didn't either. Gloves are coming off.
>SFA, but the way you type just shows how much of an unintellectual you really are "jeez, why are so many people like this" Yes, we are smarter than you.
No you are not. If you were you wouldn't have a build downvoted to -8 with various people listing what is wrong with it. You wouldn't have made a monstrosity like that. You wouldn't be arguing about a 120mm being a bad choice. I wouldn't calling you out right now. You wouldn't be shifting the goal post. You wouldn't be making this the hill you die. Do you what a intellectual would do here? Admit to their mistakes and move on and/or ask how they can improve, not double down. Calling yourself smarter than u/Potato_Plays844 is a very bold claim that is false.
>Sure I admit that air cooling is better but a $75 AIO vs $20 HSF obviously not the one I picked I picked one that would fit in the case but the ml240l is much better than the gammax https://pangoly.com/en/compare/cpu-cooler/deepcool-gammaxx-gt-rgb-vs-cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb
You did pick a $75 AIO and he showed that a $20 HSF out did it. The case supports up to 280mm AIO's. That is not a review or benchmark or really anything. All that does is compare the two cooler specifications.
Well, I'm really stupid. I've just checked this website https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-mpg-z590-gaming-force/ram and I cannot find it here by searching for the part number.
Is this the main site for checking QVL parts?
I didn't even know QVL was a thing, I just assumed RAM works with every board.
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-mpg-z390-gaming-plus/cpu
Looks like the supported CPUs are up to 9th gen Intel. You are very close to maxed with a 9700k.
When CPU bottlenecked another option to optimize is to upgrade the graphical load - i.e. giving the GPU more to work with by:
more graphically intensive games
higher resolution monitor
You'd be getting the same FPS, but a better image. Make sure when checking CPU load later to watch specific core load, for games that let's say can use only 1 core you'll technically be cpu bottlenecked when that one core is at 100% utilization, but if you're looking at overall CPU usage you'll see something like 20-25% (because that 1 core is 1/8th, 12.5% + some minimal for the remaining 7 cores doing other stuff)
This is a decent site that compares the features of the two, if you haven't looked here already. Take a look at what each one does and doesn't have and decide which is better. They're both good boards so it depends mostly on what feature you decide are more valuable
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/gigabyte-b365m-ds3h/cpu <---- these are the cpu's that are compatible. Search for a few and see what you could get within your budget . if you have only 4 or less cores, try to go for 6 maybe
Me and my son built his first light gaming computer about a month ago. I wanted to have this experience with him and I wanted something that can be upgraded as he got older. It was my first also, but after reading a lot of forums and watching videos, we were prepared to move forward. One of the best things I did was run across this website, https://pangoly.com/en/browse I’m sure there are others or even better websites out there, but I was able to make sure all my parts were compatible with each other using this site and even caught a couple of hiccups during the parts ordering of components that wouldn’t be compatible. It’s up and running good and I feel we can add parts and upgrade parts to meet his needs as he gets more into gaming.
Pullthrotle? if it's him I used his original link, and pulled UM.CX1SA.002 and it comes out as a Gsync monitor only.
Here's a different site.
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/monitor/acer-predator-x34-bmiphz-vs-lg-32gk650f-b-32
Here it says no freesync support.
If you go by the Acer X34 name, it's been re-used for many years in several flavors, it will only show you the true specs using the sub model codes.
- DDR4 or DDR5? If you have the budget for DDR5 - go for it. Future proofing.
- Case. See this site below for the dimensions and other specs of each case. The NZXT H710 has a higher VGA length (I assuming they are pertaining to the graphics card space). Also, NZXT has more drive bays - which can mean it would a larger volume inside. Whichever case you choose, the key here is airflow. You would need to adjust the fan selection as well if you plan on adding additional fans. Personally, I use a pull configuration and exhaust on the top. That may change on your use case (you may want to put decors or what not on top of your CPU).``
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https://pangoly.com/en/compare/case/corsair-icue-465x-rgb-vs-nzxt-h710-white-black
From what i found the lan chipset is faster on the steel legend and you get more amenities like usb-c and optical port and a couple more.
But the non steel one has +1 m.2 (so 4 instead of 3) slots and more onboard usbs https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/asrock-b560-pro4-vs-asrock-b560-steel-legend
UPDATE... having googled it, I believe it may be a RAM issue. At this time I have 4 x 8gb XPG DT60 modules in the motherboard. However looking at both this site, https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/ram#compatible-list
And this site;
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/?compatible_with=vFhmP6
They seem to suggest that only 2 of this type of RAM is compatible. Any thoughts?
I just realized I'm commenting on my own post with my other username. 🤣🤣 I can't figure out login issues...anyways, are you familiar with this website: https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h/ram
I found it here, I did see the QVL list was under a different name which is where I found it. Renoir was where I found it instead Matisse? Idk what the difference of these are, if you happen to know.
Use this link to check out your motherboard compatibility: https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/amd-a6-9500/motherboard
In general, A6-9500 is compatible with any AM4 chipset motherboard
Looks like you can mount the AIO downwards friend
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/tZvWGX
Link to the build here, uses the same exact AIO you gave
Case is the H510i but between your H510 I'm assuming and their H510i, they're the same in size
In what world haven't smartphone prices gone up? The iPhone is a textbook case of how benign inflation covers inflation. And 6 core AM4 processors haven't gotten any cheaper since the start of the pandemic. And your gaming laptop? Really? A 1650ti in 2022 for $1200? I picked up a 3060 6GB for just over a grand in 2021. A laptop with three+ years old internals should not be selling at MSRP... Unless there's a shortage of components.
I'm just going to let the rest of what you've stated stand as evidence of not understanding what benign deflation not understanding the dynamics behind TV manufacturing. That they're getting faster refresh rates is a result of competition and maturity in the controller design - I have a 10 year old Seiki where the screen itself can do 120hz (and if I swap out the controller, it'll do much more).
Just... Yikes. Good luck I'm out.
I would recommend the TUF Gaming B500-Plus as I am using. You may the following comparisons for your reference.
Looks like this mobo supports up to 3000 series Ryzen. If you get a 3000 series RTX GPU you might end up bottlenecked by your CPU so I recommend upgrading both if you plan on doing this. Mobo may require a bios update which you can get from your motherboard manufacturers website.
I would recommend dual channel ram. Use two 1x8 ram sticks (16 GB) instead of one 1 x 16 ram or your performance will suffer.
In terms of motherboard, I don't think the A320I is compatible with the 5600x.
Use this motherboard list as a reference: https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/amd-ryzen-5-5600g/motherboard. I personally use an Asrock B550i itx motherboard.
When you get a motherboard, you might run an issue with BIOS support. You may need to update the bios to support Ryzen 5000G CPUs.
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/intel-core-i7-7700k/motherboard
I used a 7700k before upgrading, would definitely recommend it but it runs HOT so liquid cooling recommended.
Honestly if you’re planning on big upgrades and can make do I would save the cash and play with what you have otherwise you’re just spending money on components to say bye to them within a year or so.
Found https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/n7w2wf/msi_b550_tomahawk_works_on_ryzen_3_1200_with/ And this https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/amd-ryzen-3-1200/motherboard And this https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ryzen-7-3700x-on-a-a320m-k-mobo.3526140/ So b550 works with 3000series, b450 with 1000series and a320 with 3000series.
From what I researched the vs600has less connectors also also they only have pcie 6 pin connectors whereas the cv650 has pcie 6+2 connectors which if I’m not mistaken Rtx 3060tis need as from what I know they take a 8pin pcie cable Here’s the site I looked on
>Van bármilyen különbség a kettő lap között mind integrált mind nem integrált processzrokkal együttvéve? Ha igen, mi?
Én amugy az ASUS-t választnám a fentieket átfutva.
Me fije y aca dice que es compatible
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h/cpu
Pero aca no dice nada
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-A320M-H-rev-1x#kf
Tengo miedo de comprar una mother nueva y cagarla jajaja
Aca dice que es compatible
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h/cpu
Pero aca no dice nada
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-A320M-H-rev-1x#kf
No entiendo como pija entender estas cosas, tengo miedo de comprar una mother nueva y cagarla
The A320M is compatible with Up to 5 3600x in the 5 series Up to 9 3950x in the 9 series And up to 7 3700x (maybe 7 3700 pro, practically identical) in the 7 series
Here is a list if you want to investigate further, i compared it to a few others to make sure its accurate though
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-a320m-gaming-pro/cpu
Well, up to you, here's a comparison. The 980 pro is definately the fastest. Note the mp600 has better endurance.
But if you can afford it, then you could go 2tb Samsung pro.
Use the Ethernet and you’ll be good. Your mobo has 1Gbit.
https://pangoly.com/en/review/msi-b350-tomahawk
Most Ethernet cables support 1Gbit unless it’s really cheap. Do a few speed tests to see what you have.
It's installed in A2/B2.
I tried checking the QVL list of the motherboard but currently the page is unavailable on MSI's website. It won't load for me, at least. But according to the QVL list on an other website there isn't even a single 3600mhz CL16 RAM listed for this motherboard... although I'm not sure how up-to-date that list is.
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/ram
I might end up returning the sticks and go with the Crucial Ballistix 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 BL2K16G32C16U4B instead. That one is definitely on the QVL list and currently also 30$ cheaper where I live.
To be, 3200MHz CL16 seemed like a better value but others might disagree. RAM speed doesn’t matter too much in my opinion.
The reason why I went for that Gigabyte is purely for that free game really.
Here is the comparison between the Gigabyte and that ASUS motherboard: https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/020c2235-eb3b-ec11-829e-12c3a5b6f281,0b87ce06-eb3b-ec11-829e-12c3a5b6f281
it is compatible: https://www.asrock.com/support/cpu.asp?s=AM4&u=663
and upgrading the bios is easy, you just download the latest bios and put it on a usb drive. then go into the bios and there should be some flash utiltiy where you select the new bios and wait a few minutes. the big thing is to just let it do its thing you can brick it if you turn it off or power goes out
Erm, I’m trying to wrap my head around that second paragraph but I haven’t had a coffee yet this morning and am struggling…
MOBO manual, what slots does it recommend to use for dual channel? And do you use any RGB controller software like iCue? Does your RAM show up in there?
The RAM you have is on the MOBO QVL for that CPU so compatibility shouldn’t be the issue. https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asus-rog-strix-x570-f-gaming/ram?c=Vermeer#cc
On this website is writtent that both are Samsung B-Die.
But I don't know, I don't have any other sources :)
It will be possible to check with software what is inside?
Do you know how?
Both are the same color, which is BLACK.
One guy told me that CMT64GX4M4K3600C16 has better compatibility with Ryzen CPU.
I found this info, but only difference you can see is production date.
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/ram/corsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-64gb-4x16gb-ddr4-3600-cmt64gx4m4z3600c16-vs-corsair-dominator-platinum-rgb-64gb-4x16gb-ddr4-3600
APU's benefit from fast ram, however i do not know since i have never used one.
take this with a grain of salt
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asrock-b550-taichi/ram?c=Cezanne#cc
according to the above, its not on the QVL, however i have not personally checked from the manufacturer that is housing your motherboard and the APU's QVL if there is one.
Sure, but more importantly make sure they pair well with your Mobo.
Check G.Skill's QVL and you can also use https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asrock-b550-taichi/ram#compatible-list
To ensure that your motherboard and ram have good compatiablity. I urge you to do that first, dont be like me and assume it will work.
I tried these on a b550 taichi and wouldnt ran stable unless i ran them at a lesser rate.
Use the x570 taichi and got the full specs as advertised on the box. Now trying to go even faster.
If you want to have FAST ram and tight timmings by simply enabling XMP settings . I cant see anything better in terms of quality and aesthetics for less that is B-DIE at 32gb c16 3600
Please check G.SKill QVL and https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asrock-b550-taichi/ram#compatible-list
this is a good jumping off point to make sure your Mobo and Ram are a good fit without having to tweak other settings if your uncomfortable with this.
I had a b550 and wouldnt hold stable past 3200mhz so had to go with a x570 unless i wanted to do tweaking i did not feel comfortable with.
Note, I've had no luck still. I have a streaming PC with ryzen 3800x and B550 aorus mobo. Would it be smart to test the ram in that build so then I could potentially see whether there's an issue with the ram or mobo? I did windows memory diagnostic and had no issues. Just trying to think out the box, because if it did work on the other board I could potentially just swap the streaming build's mobo to my gaming build.
Here's a comparison link: https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-vs-gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro
Currently running 7C02v1E, which isn't. But according to the compatibility list on Pangoly, an update to 1H should take care of that.
is your memory compatible with your mobo? https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/gigabyte-z590-ud-ac/ram
Ive had warzone crash with a suspected power issue when my mrs plugs something in on the same socket as my pc.
my Warzone ram usage has never exceeded 13gb, typically 12-12.5gb ram usage, but i have seen commit charge usage as high as 24gb, so thats like 8gb+ of warzone disk caching.
Windows automatically increases pagefile and decreases afterwards, to save space and improve wear leveling on ssd's.
When manually including my hdd into the pool, load times are worse, i am orange pin less often.
Setting windows to manage pagefile, it'll eventually disable the HDD page and just use ssd.
Im running: i7-2600 4c/8t @3.5GHz 2x8gb ddr3 1333MHz (mismatched) 1050ti slot powered. 1700-1800MHz in warzone (cpu bottleneck) so 60-90% usage. 310 watt HP oem power supply i rarely crash, but after major updates i usually get a crash on first match.
run windows disk cleanup and include DirectX shader cache for deletion. then let the game remake it.
ive noticed varying sizes after different runs, with a 5MB shader cache seeming to work best (sometimes it goes like 120MB, but when its at 5MB, seems to run best)
This the list of GPUs with 16GB for video RAM.
https://pangoly.com/en/hardware/vga/gpu-memory-size/16gb
I think you are having 16GB RAM and 8GB VRAM for GTX1070.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/?compatible_with=nvyFf7
You can seach for Noctua on the list. I would pick any +60 $ noctua cooler
or the best Be Quiet you can afford.
https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/intel-core-i7-2600/cpu-cooler
U suštini su jako slične grafičke, s obzirom da ih obe tera 3070. Ne gledaj ništa Amazon cene, to dok dođe u Evropu i svi udare carinu skoči papreno. Pogledaj cenu na ipon.hu, i traži ponude na KP za taj proizvod pa vidi ko ti nudi najmanje (biće lepo jeftinije zbog povraćaja poreza).
Npr. ovaj monitor je 575e u Mađarskoj, ja ga dobijam za 500e
Looks like the Pro-P is slightly newer and, contrary to what the amazon price indicates, has a few additional features:
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-p-vs-gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro
For the tower:
If you select the Mid-Tower you could buy a fullsize ATX motherboard if you want the features, it should fit without issue. The smaller motherboard that you selected is usually used for smaller form-factor cases; though it's not a bad price either way!
The rest of your build looks really good, and the 5800x is a great CPU! That being said, depending on use-case, the 5800X might be overkill. It's currently touted as the best "all around" CPU, but honestly most modern CPU's will do well for most gaming applications. I have an 11700k, for example, that I got for $229, and I absolutely LOVE that CPU. I'm not saying you shouldn't get the 5800x, it's a real sweet spot, but if you're concerned about price, know that you can get 95% of the performance for less.
Did not come with the B450M Mortar but instead has the B450M Pro M2. Returning it.
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/msi-b450m-mortar-max-vs-msi-b450m-pro-m2-max
Link for comparison
Hi, I was thinking https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming/ram on this site I do not find a single 3600 mhz ram memory, what is your opinion on this
Thank you for the answer. The funny thing is that in https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/amd-athlon-3000g/motherboard it shows my motherboard as compatible. I'm really confused, they both have the same socket.
Here is a link for a comparison.
3060 needs more power (200W vs 160W) and will need two PCIe 8pin power cables from PSU. Make sure you have enough power for them.
3060 has slightly faster memory interface (256bit vs 192bit)
3060 is 27mm longer than the 2060 (232mm vs 205mm) check case clearance.
With the price difference being so “small” I would definitely go with the 3060. It’ll last longer in the future IMHO.
Good call on the RAM haha. I do care a bit about the looks of the build, like the PSU was picked because I was set on the O-11 case which needed an SFX power supply.
Oh I just heard really good stuff about the Crucial P5 1TB from artofpc (from r/buildapc beginner wiki).
https://pangoly.com/en/compare/ssd/wd-black-sn750-1tb-vs-crucial-p5-1tb
Do you think I can get away with sticking with the wraith stealth if I'm not going to be doing anything crazy CPU wise?
I have a B550M-A mobo. When I bought it the specifications listed compatibility up to second gen Zen processors. When I check out this website the compatibility seems way more expansive. https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asus-prime-b450m-a/cpu
Depends on your budget. Check out the QVL of your mobo and then go for the highest frequency with the lowest CAS you can afford. Remember that your CPU isn't affected as much by higher frequency memory than you might read when it comes to Ryzen CPUs. While you are already upgrading I'd definitely go for at least 2x16GB sticks or go straight to 4x16GB sticks. 16GB is still fine but it's what I would consider the actual minimum nowadays.
The Asus seems to have a better refresh rate and be less expensive (In my country at least) . It also has built-in speakers, has G-sync, which the AOC doesn’t. The Asus is also brighter and has one more DVI port (the DVI port part isn’t really important but I wanted to add that)
I used this website to find this info: https://pangoly.com/en/compare/monitor/asus-vg248qg-24-vs-aoc-c24g1-23-6
There's no such thing, the closest there was been is the i-RAM, but that was seen as a disk by the computer.
BTW, what motherboard are you using to get 256GB ? all the MoBos seem to have 128G max
Does the full model number have to have the QVL check on https://pangoly.com/en/review/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/compatibility/ram for it to work? How do you check if the configuration would work?
It doesn't even post with all 4 sticks running at the default speeds.
I believe the motherboard makers will release firmware on their website (like previous generations) to allow the 5xxx series to work in the B450m.
Time will tell!
Edit: I did a quick search and it seems many 450 boards allow the 5xxx series already!
I am not very sure in which sticks they were before.
Just discovered that the new sticks are not in the mobo QVL ( HX434C17FB4/16 ) from https://pangoly.com/en/review/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x/compatibility/ram
The problem was there before but this seems to be another problem then?
https://pangoly.com/en/review/amd-ryzen-7-1700/compatibility/motherboard
I bought this motherboard and 1700 CPU in 2017. It did not have one issue until this year, after I removed the 1060 6gb last month. I only updated bios last week after Asus recommended it.The PC is still exactly the same as it was before, same errors etc.
I have a follow up question, per this Page newer generation CPUs claim to be compatible with my motherboard so is that inaccurate or how do I deal with this info?
nope z590 is also not supported, you need a z390
here is a list - https://pangoly.com/en/review/intel-core-i9-9900k/compatibility/motherboard
> MD4U163618DEDA
https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/compatibility/ram
According to this site I found, OLOy modules very similar to the ones I bought have been tested and working. For my specific RAM modules, from the manufacturer themselves, they said this about someone with a similar board:
"I just bought a tuf gaming b550m-plus (wi-fi) micro atx mb to pair with a amd ryzen 3600~will this memory work with my setup~??? Answer:MD4U0836180BE0DA is compatible with TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) with AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600. Thank you very much for your inquiry. By OLOy Memory SELLER on February 1, 2021"
It's not a Strix board, but it's still an ASUS board. Everything points to the RAM being compatible.
Thanks a lot.
I found the list I checked earlier and it says that the i7-11700 is compatible with the H470 (like I said before) since the BIOS version F20e. So I just have to check the latest update for the BIOS and hope that everything updates smoothly.
So i actually built this, but the memory would not overclock to it’s intended speed. So currently i’m looking on advice whether to go for an 32GB 4x8GB kit(because it looks cleaner overal) or an 2x16GB kit, but don’t know if it will be an hassle to overclock. Does anybody have an recommendation for 32GB kit that works well with asus strix X570-E and Ryzen 5900x? I have been looking at the QVL list and an list on pangoly for days: https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming/compatibility/ram?c=Vermeer#cc
Inflation is absolutely insane right now for video cards. Here's the price history for the 5600xt, it's a different company, but still shows the jist of the insanity we have to deal with at the moment. https://pangoly.com/en/review/sapphire-radeon-pulse-rx-5600-xt/price-history
My 580x is going for almost twice what I paid for it brand new
Just my two cents: I'd get a better CPU, you can get the 5600 x for $299. I know they are hard to come by but my Microcenter says they have over 25 in stock for in-store shopping so maybe if you are near one you can snag it. Outside of that, alot depends on what you are doing with it. I think you could get better value dropping the board down to something like an ASUS Tuf Plus (unless specific reason you went with the one you did) https://pangoly.com/en/compare/motherboard/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-vs-msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi and use the extra 50 to get a better cooler like be quiet dark rock pro or noctua.
They are not QVL supported but i cant find this information on official manufacturer's website (gigabytle motherboard). https://pangoly.com/en/review/gigabyte-b450m-h/compatibility/ram
Me too, it must be ram sticks.
Thanks for the corrections and suggestions.
At this point I feel safer to buy the Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600MHz that isn't listed as QVL than buying the Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200MHz that IS QVL but currently 10€ more expensive than the former.
Edit: I also found a Q&A on amazon saying its compatible with my MoBo
Looking here...
https://pangoly.com/en/review/msi-mag-b550m-mortar/compatibility/ram
G.SKILL<strong>F4-4000C17D-16GVKB</strong>-16GB (2 x 8GB)DDR4-4000MHz CAS 17 1.40V
The ASUS TUF has more stuff but if you don't need the stuff, base it on aesthetics because overall they are very similar performance wise.
> Edit: So it's making sense what alot of you have said, will probably need to get x4 16GB dimms. Really appreciate the help everyone!
I don't think this is the issue. I found a list of supported RAM for your motherboard:
https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-strix-z270e-gaming/compatibility/ram
If it's accurate, there are plenty of 32GB DIMMs supported there. I doubt that's why your RAM isn't working.
When you say only 14GB is usable, can you provide a screenshot?
Also, can you provide a screenshot of the performance tab in Task Manager, like so: https://i.imgur.com/2rgsPb3.png
This site has a different size/speed configuration of the RAM listed on the QVL, and most of the time different RAM speeds are just bins of better chips, whereas higher capacity RAM just has more chips on it, at least within the same family of RAM.
Did you make sure it's set to the right voltage after turning XMP on? Also check this site to make sure it's compatible with that ram.
It does. This RAM should be compatible with 4 sticks https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi/compatibility/ram
I'm brand new to building PC's but you have the same basic wish list that I do, and I've spent the last 2 or three days heavily researching all of this.
I just ordered this case:
Phanteks Eclipse P400A Review & Specs - Pangoly
It's airflow is great. It's cheaper than its 3-fan RGB counterpart but otherwise offers all the same perks, and it's only $69.99!
I've been going back and looking at your posts while researching computer parts. I really appreciate your input. Right now, I've tentatively got my list of parts, being mindful of thermals, as follows:
Phanteks Eclipse P400A Review & Specs - Pangoly
If I were to purchase the Phanteks P400A I would probably buy two more 120mm fans, and these seem to be the most affordable: Amazon.com: Strong Quiet 12025 Fan 120x120x25mm 12cm 120mm Computer Case Fan DC 12V Cooling Fan for Computer case 2Pin 2 Wire 1600RPM 2-Pack: Electronics
It is my understanding that since those are 2-pin fans they will only run at max speed unless they're connected to a fan controller -- which that tower just happens to provide. Am I understanding how this works correctly?
Next, I want to shop for a Processor. I was wondering if an 8 core processor is overkill for my purposes, or if that's just about perfect. I'm not a serious gamer by any stretch, but as I mentioned before I would like to run standard games for a couple of years.
Yes, I have F4-3600C16D-32GVKC and I see it on this list: https://pangoly.com/en/review/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi/compatibility/ram
There is a limit to frequencies (of course) this mobo supports ddr4 as you already know and there are lots of models that were tested on this and many that weren't tested but still work. I suggest you to look for the original site of this motherboard there you will find everything. Here's one of them. https://pangoly.com/en/review/asrock-b450m-hdv/compatibility/ram
Thank you for the post, I checked and MSI doesn't seem to have an official QVL, a third party site (https://pangoly.com/en/review/msi-b550-a-pro/compatibility/ram) and it doesn't seem to be checkmarked.
Thanks for the build guide bro. I thought about using the built-in cooler that comes with the ryzen but I'd did some research and most comments suggest that it's just really good enough to prevent it from going critical, that's why I opt for getting another cooling part to help with it's cooling.
Do you still suggest that I opt for a build without the second cooler?
I would still like to keep the current mother board for the build because it does work better for my needs so I'd spare the extra $40- $50 bucks.
I love the GPU idea seen as how I'd be focusing more on the Building aspect of Game Development that would be good to just get a decent GPU and upgrade later.
The Faster more efficient SSD and HDD is great I'ma swap out mine now .
A I think the Case looks awesome.
GE is great at its price point for having better VRMs in its own level and is what I'd pick if I was going to upgrade and heavy OC a 5900X/5950X. However for an OC'd 5600X, you can save $20 if you go with a Asus B550 TUF Gaming Plus Wifi or Strix B550-F. Use https://pangoly.com to compare mobos.
My bad.
tl;dr: If they were the same price, I'd go for the B550 TUF Plus Wifi for the type-C port, more SATA ports if I wanted to have a 6x HDD/SSD (RAID) config, +2 PCIe x1 slots, better ARGB support, and better RMA if it fails. If you don't care for any of these, then get whatever's cheaper.
Difference is that B550 Tuf Plus has a USB Type-C port, +2 PCIe x1 slots, +2 SATA ports, Bluetooth 5.1, and CrossFire support. B550 Aorus Elite AX V2 has +1 PCIe x16 slot and Bluetooth 5.
They both support 4733/4800 RAM speeds, Realtek 2.5Gb LAN, AX wifi, flashback, ALC1200 audio codecs, 5 audio jacks / 7 channels.
B550 TUF Plus Wifi: need USB type-C, you use a lot of PCIe x1 expansion cards, planning to use all 6x SATA ports, your latest BT devices require 5.1 standard, or you're planning on CrossFiring. ASUS has better ARGB software support and RMA centres in Canada.
B550 Aorus Elite AX V2: if you need more PCIe x16 expansion slots. Gigabyte has basic ARGB software support and its RMA centre is in the US and take a long time.