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Mystery solved - it's been lifted word-for-word from this guide on how to write a successful bio. see the section from "FunLovin 36"
While meeting on-line is the #1 method, it isn't winning relative to the concept of "meeting off-line".
19% of relationships that result in marriage started online.
17% Meeting through Friends
15% Met in College
12% Met at Work
Source : https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/online-dating-advice/online-dating-statistics-dating-stats-2017/
So while 20% is certainly nothing to scoff at, it is nowhere near 100%. Even if we scale it to take out the "at college" percentage, you only get around 24%.
Edit: That said, the perception that the online realm, is the only game in town, is also very real. Also from the same article:
Half of British Singles Have Never Asked Someone on a Date Face to Face In some ways, online dating is a crutch for singles who feel uncomfortable or fearful about talking to their crushes in person. It’s much less intimidating to communicate with a date online because you don’t have to look the person in the eye and put your heart on the line. Over half of British single adults surveyed by The Sun admitted they’ve never asked a date out in person, and 46% said they’ve never dumped anyone in person. While online communication can make those tough conversations feel more pleasant, at some point, you’re going to have to talk to your date in person.
So there is very much so a population which FEELS like on-line is the only game in town, when really, on-line dating only accounts for 20% of marriages.
i mean they're always gonna use an algorithm this is apparently how they do it now , not very clear apparently. Still its always gonna be designed to be against you (sort of like how facebook killed the organic reach to get people to pay more for promotion)
> Are they actually questioning it
Yes. And for good reason. Turns out it's exactly the same as one of the examples in this how-to guide
>A 2016 study conducted at the Hospital Clinic of Barcelona showed that a number of women were attracted to bad boy types because they were considered captivating. “While they are selfish, rule-breaking, imprudent, and rebellious, they are also brave, temerarious, independent, and self-reliant—and they live frantic, galvanizing lives,” said lead researcher Fernando Gutiérrez. He added that this behavior could function as “a signal that the subject has such good genetic quality and condition as to live dangerously without suffering harm.” The study went on to say those traits included in the dark triad, such as neuroticism and impulsiveness, “are not being weeded out by natural selection and actually may confer an evolutionary advantage.” Therefore ‘nice’ guys with their reliably structured existence just can’t compete with their wild bad boy counterparts who apparently have nine lives to boot—it’s evolution’s fault.
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>According to research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology back in 2012, women, in the week of ovulation, “delude themselves into thinking that the sexy bad boys will become devoted partners and better dads,” said study researcher Kristina Durante of The University of Texas at San Antonio. “When looking at the sexy cad through ovulation goggles, Mr. Wrong looked exactly like Mr. Right.”
Do you have a source? That number seems quite high.
This 2016 poll suggested 5% of Americans met their current SO online. This 2017 poll showed that 19% of brides met their spouse online. These statistics by eHarmony from 2015 showed 20% of relationships starting online and 7% of marriages having a virtual beginning.
The numbers are certainly rising over the years, but I can't find anywhere that gives anything close to a 50% figure.
Firstly, it is completely okay to do whatever you want to do with your body, which includes sex. If you don't want to have casual sex, that's perfectly okay.
Secondly, it's not that clear whether we actually live in a hook-up culture. Studies show that we might not—meaning that you're actually not alone.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/single-life/millennial-hook-up-culture-myth/
Again, you can't fix this. If she goes back, you can't stop her. She's responsible for herself and her own actions.
Don't play the white knight game. You will look like a fool in everyone's eyes - especially hers.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/white-knight-syndrome/
Online dating... but for love of all things child free, be explicitly clear that you are childfree, lean into the baby eating if you have to, but your goal is to match with people who are right for you, not "people who are perfect but want kids". Those people are a time sink, which will keep you from the objective.
Personally I like OKC if you are non mono (or probably mono, but that is not my thing) or Hinge if you are mono (long story, but my poly community is reviewing dating apps).
If you have a social/creative/cultural community that is holding social events I recommend attending, because most of my partners have come for IRL.
Either way consider the date zero Idea for connecting in real life, if you can be safe from covid.
That's reasonable. I do notice a lot of people have good outdoor photos:
But mine have never looked that "magazine quality" and outdoors are difficult to control so perhaps I can still do better. I will try.
How did you end up just standing around at a castle or art gallery taking pictures of yourself on a tripod over and over and not have people stare at you?
I typically do the “zero date” for a first meeting. Match, chat minimally in the app, push for coffee or happy hour or a walk in the park. I just want to know, “Do we click enough to devote immure than an hour with you?” That could be extending the existing date, or making plans for later. No big proclamations of devotion, no decisions other than, “Do we want to explore this more? Can we enjoy 3 hours over dinner together?”
Don’t put too much pressure on yourself. Too many people (in my experience thus far) are trying to sort out if you’re soulmate material in 1-2 dates. Just have fun, enjoy meeting someone new, and go from there.
That's a tough question, because every man has different wants... and everyone is generally willing to compromise on a few wants if it means they get what they need.
This was an interesting list for me to read. It shows you the basic qualities that men (in general) want. It also shows how their importance changes with age.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/over-50-dating/what-men-over-50-want/
Are you suggesting that he change his whole personality to that of the prototypical sexy cad that women are attracted to? Just to remind you, women dig socially dominant, good looking jerks who scare the crap out of other men and have high social status.
>in 3 studies we show that ovulating women perceive charismatic and physically attractive men, but not reliable and nice men, as more committed partners and more devoted future fathers. Ovulating women perceive that sexy cads would be good fathers to their own children but not to the children of other women
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>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22582900
Why Do Girls Like Bad Boys? Secrets from the Science of Attraction https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/dating-advice-women/why-do-girls-like-bad-boys-what-we-can-learn-from-the-science-of-attraction/
> The chance of getting a serious relationship from online dating is low
Why is it about men preferring younger women? Are women not responsible for who they date? It takes two to tango.
In fact, considering I've heard so many women from 20-40 (indeed, even in this thread) talk about how guys in their 20's aren't "relationship material," it's no surprise women go after older men who are seen as more mature and with their shit together. These men are more than happy to date younger women because they're more attractive and have lower expectations and generally less experience all around. I don't think it's fair to pin the blame on men for dating younger when younger women are so willing to date older men. I'd be willing to bet a good portion of women in this sub dated considerably older men in their 20's.
Zoosk did a study recently, but I don't know anyone that uses Zoosk still so take that with a grain of salt.
Here, I just found another article based on scientific research that you'll most likely dismiss as "bias" pseudoscience. It's amazing how much of a consensus is out there supporting what I thought was common knowledge. Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything 😕 that supports your argument yet, but I'll keep my head on swivel. ✌️ Peace
NTA Nah WTF that is insane. I mean this w/all sincerity, you need therapy to work on boundaries and self respect. And you need to go no contact with him for at least a few months.
Your gf cheated on you with your friend and came running back w/her tail between her legs b/c he rejected her. You’re her Plan B. Don’t ever be someone’s Plan B. Plus she’s just going to bail on you w/the next guy who doesn’t turn her down. Trust that she sucks. Reclaim your self respect, ghost her. No contact is imperative for your recovery & healing.
i’m so terribly sorry this has happened to you. I’m gonna paraphrase my own past post, you *will* move past this. By 24 I had met two loves of my lives and was engaged to a third (not love of my life) and looking back, I cringe at how heartbroken I was over these bums lol. And yes I went back *multiple* times w/one of them even tho he’d shown me who he was. B/c I had a warped idea of love. I thought sometimes it’s s’posed to be painful if i’s *twu wuv* and that his constantly coming back to me was b/c I was so amazing, which I was (and am), but it was mainly b/c he knew I was a damn fool & exploited my naïveté & love for him 🥴 I can also laugh at myself now. I know how it feels to cry yourself to sleep to the point your pillow is freezing from being wet w/your tears. Migraines from dehydration & hunger due to no appetite or thirst. Be gracious to yourself, this was a double betrayal, the person you would turn to from being betrayed by your bf, and the person you would turn to from being betrayed by yor bf, those ppl worked in concert to hurt you. You can’t imagine the pain will lessen. But it does. With time. And you’ll make new bffs. All relationships come to an end, we just assume it’ll be due to death, but your relationship w/these two bottom feeders has met its end now. Chapter is done. Move onto the next in your life. NO Contact w/either of them is essential for your healing & recovery. Consider therapy, we all need it, and your needs are acute at the moment. Best of luck to you.
OP do you give your boyfriend gifts that he would like? It's important to know because if you've been getting him flowers he doesn't want, then him getting outdoor gifts that you don't want kinda makes sense.
If you're getting him gifts he likes and want him to return the favor, then maybe have him read this article (https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/love/how-to-love-someone/). It helpfully outlines the thought behind why you appreciate him getting you outdoor gear gifts, but why it doesn't feel like love because it's not the flowers you really desire.
Maybe tell him bluntly that you don't want outdoor gear gifts anymore. You want only flowers and a card. And ask him if he wants the same deal of only outdoor gifts from you.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/date-mix/dating-advice/older-men-dating-younger-women/
And men who message women 10+ years younger have a slight disadvantage.
A slight disadvantage is not much, you get huge advantages / disadvantages if you have status or money (assuming you don't show it off in a stupid way).
If you message a women on dating app that is 10 years younger only 3% less likely you get a reply... so yes there is a slight preference of women to date not such older man, but it's just 1 not that very important factor.
I never said that most >40 year olds want to date 25 year olds or are able to pull it of, esepecially single ones, and even that they prefer it all. Only 22% of man even like women more than 10 years younger than them. That said that also include 20 and 30 year old man which makes that statistic a bit stupid.
While apparently 97% of women don't dismiss a 10 year older man, and that with hyper picky women that dismiss 99.999% of man always to start with.
I can't find all the specifics right now but this is a good start:
>3. If you right-swipe on everyone, you’ll be punished. Some people have been speculating that if you’re too swipe-happy on Bumble, they will flag your profile and push you right to the back of the queue, where you’ll have a hard time being seen by any new profiles, if any at all.
Another link saying that it punishes your profile but with less detail
Nothing I wrote is a pejorative (which is a synonym for slur/belittlement), just pointing out how your inquiry came across. Rarely are men as attractive as they think they are, so I was saying that you thinking that you're an 8 really does not mean that you are. Even if you are conventionally attractive to the people that you want to attract, being so cocky about it is a massive turn off for many, even if you aren't openly bragging about it. I am also concerned about how young your kids are, but that you're only thinking about "do chicks dig cocky 45 yo dads," instead of the much more mature, likeable question: "how can I meet my kids' needs as well as my own?" Given your response though, I suppose by asking the internet to "be honest" about their assessment of you, that you did not actually mean for them to be honest lol?
About how many "points" you lose/gain from having sole custody of crotch goblins: it really depends on who you're trying to attract, whether they want kids or not, and how much you talk about said kids. But I'm also queer so idk how many points all of this is worth to straight women, and I don't rank people I'm attracted to, or myself, that way anyway.
I searched "single dads attractiveness study" and here's one of the results. The internet is full of stuff like this, plus advice, so I encourage you to do your own reading.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-statistics-and-research/dating-statistics/single-dads/
From a Zoosk article on tinder top picks (link below)
"1. Top Picks provides Tinder Gold users with a curated list of 10 profiles per day of Tinder’s most desirable people as decided by its algorithm. The algorithm decides which people to display based on information stored in their profiles including pictures and bio."
"7. Unfortunately, Top Picks don’t filter profiles based on your distance settings, so it’s possible that you’ll see people who are way outside of your intended dating range."
So from that, I don't think it's just about the area. No matter where I go in the US, the top picks look like the same people. I've not seen a non-white person on top picks yet since it began.
In Firefox, when I go on the problem-site, www.zoosk.com, I right-click and choose "Inspect" > "Storage" > "Cookies" > https://www.zoosk.com and then there are 4 cookies: CS, G_ENABLED_IDPS, z_device_id, and zo. I'm guessing "z_device_id" is what gets me every time? How would I go about using the site correctly while stopping this persistent cookie from identifying me?
In Firefox, when I go on the problem-site, www.zoosk.com, I right-click and choose "Inspect" > "Storage" > "Cookies" > https://www.zoosk.com and then there are 4 cookies: CS, G_ENABLED_IDPS, z_device_id, and zo. I'm guessing "z_device_id" is what gets me every time? How would I go about using the site correctly while stopping this persistent cookie from identifying me?
Be kind, courteous and trust your gut!, also, make sure to ask questions , like "How was your day?" and such, there is this website that has tips though: https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/dating-topics-14-things-to-talk-about-on-a-first-date/
A Unicorn is a person (usually female) who dates a couple, but only that couple, and has no other relationships.
Of course the issue with this is that the couple holds a lot of “power” (they’ll choose each other over the Unicorn) and it’s usually expected that the unicorn is always available on the couples schedule.
Unicorn hunting is generally looked down upon in Poly circles because it usually starts with a couple that want to spice up their sex life and not their love life.
Edited to add:
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/unicorn-in-a-polyamorous-relationship/
> You’re the one who asked what the definition was and then brought out the dictionary.
That's exactly what I did. And it was in the response of your enquiry regarding how a woman can be a white knight! You picked up on me first and I went along with you. I threw the dictionary definition to prove a point, I.e. just because you and your friends use it on Reddit and in your friend circles, it doesn't necessarily prove that a woman can not be a white knight!! And also, terms are interchangeable and can be used both colloquially and formally.
Here's for more clarity.👇 https://www.languageatinternet.org/articles/2018/grieser
The syndrome 👇 https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/white-knight-syndrome/
>Seems you’re the “vocabulary Nazi”
You picked up on me first. Hence, you are being self-contradictory again.
>has quite a bit of projection
Define "projection".
It is an insult. Saying that a friend put you in the friendzone is saying that their friendship is like a penalty or a bad thing. The way the friendzone is referred to is always negative, and it shows that people who use this term are feeling wronged by the friends who reject them. Why is there the need to use such a word? If a male friend of mine rejects me, I'm not going to see our friendship as a penalty and say that he put me in the friendzone. I'll just say the he rejected me, that's okay, and move on without putting any offensive labels on our friendship because I value that friendship. If you can't appreciate the friendship that you have with a woman that's rejected you, you should stop being her friend because she doesn't need someone toxic like you around her.
There are plenty of articles on the internet that explain the toxicity of the word "friendzone" better than I can. Here is one such article. Please read it. https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/single-life/what-is-the-friend-zone-why-stop-calling-it-friend-zone/
There are some examples in this article, where they don't look directly into the camera. But I can see, that in my picture, my face isn't very visible and the lighting is kinda obscuring. Thanks for the advice!
I don’t really have experience with adressing this behaviour as I cut guys like this off before it even gets to be a relationship, as it’s just a major turn off for me and I lose interest in clingy people immediately.
I’ve found a site that might help a little though: https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/relationship-advice/clingy-boyfriend/
When I first signed up for SA, I looked for definitions online. While it's a sugar site, this Zoosk definition led me to think FWB and NSA are basically the same thing: https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/nsa-relationship/
"Would have" doesn't mean that its what they are selecting for. For the last time, women don't fetishize older men because of their age. If you took two cut copies of each other in status and resources but one was her age and the other was 5 years older most likely she would choose her age.
Women date older men because they have more to offer.
Since you seem to live on another planet where young women aren't doing this, I'm going to show you some statistics from my planet, Earth https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/younger-women-dating-older-men/
>56% of women prefer dating older men. And of that 56%, the majority (56%) like men who are 1 to 4 years older than them.
>Women in their 20s match with people the farthest out of their age range. When it comes to matching (aka the people women like also like them back) women in their 20s matched with men the farthest out of their age range. And overall, the younger a woman is, the older the men she’s likely to match with are.
That's a good idea. If, like me, you don't love group settings, there are quite a few apps for making friends, similar to Tinder but platonic. Here's a few you could try. I hope it works for you :)
In 2017, online dating became the most common way for newlyweds to meet each other
If you're not getting results from online dating, it's not the app's fault; it's yours
Unfortunately I can't help you with that, but I'm 100% sure that if you condense your feelings in a few sentences and google it, there will be a Quora topic about it haha (which could be of some use).
pics 5, 6 are really cool, 6 could work better as an opener (IMO).
Here you can find some ideas for photos.
That’s what we all start out thinking. But the truth of the matter is you do not know who she truly is. You know nearly nothing about her. Lookup how to communicate and truly get to know the person of interest to you. And it is done by asking open-ended questions to require discussion and avoid yes or no answers. There are lists as large as 200 questions on the net to prime the question pump. Start by asking about her childhood, schools, best friends, what she recalls best about school, and on and on. Ask her definition of sex, cheating, should a cheater be forgiven and allowed to come back. The questions are to establish expectations, dealbreakers, boundaries and consequences. Get to know her, her morals, ethics, values, beliefs and character may not align with yours, maybe she ain’t so great after all. Find out now rather than later.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/relationship-advice/relationship-questions/
https://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/10-ways-prevent-cheating-relationship.html. Or how to communicate as a way to prevent cheating and most relationship issues.
Good luck
(I can't believe I'm actually linking a Zoosk article, but here we go...)
This is a simplistic, but easy read about the difference between lust and love early in a relationship.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/science-younger-women-date-older-men/
Here’s a layman’s article with some references. But seriously, it’s so common that I always find it weird when people question it.
Personally, I’m in my late forties, good shape, good career. The oldest I’ve dated since my separation is 40, the youngest 26. That range feels the most natural. Most women my age look and act old.
I'm not moving the goalposts. PPD women are the ones insisting that you have to make friends with women for months on end before asking her out on a proper date.
A family relative of mine met her 8 year BF through friends but they only knew each-other for 2 weeks before they started to date.
You can't reasonably tell me they became great friends in the 2 weeks before they started dating.
Same with another female relative who got married a few years ago after being with her BF for 10 years.
Met through friends, yes, but they started dating after about a month of hanging out.
As for online dating , PPD had a thread a few days ago about this. Here's an article I found on a cursory google search that doesn't belong to the manosphere either.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/online-dating-advice/online-dating-statistics-dating-stats-2017/
I'm sure you can find studies saying otherwise but online dating right now is, if not the majority, a very large and statistically significant plurality.
>(don't know why it's relevant that they're female or male)
It's not, happens to both people equally, but there isn't a billion dollar industry around trying to help guys figure out how to deal with/avoid it. The same behaviors traditionally lead to them getting shamed for being "over-emotional" or "entitled" both terms are inaccurate and stupid.
> apparent epidemic
Okay...I mean it's so ingrained in our culture, how could you possibly miss it?
> I wouldn't take "I was drunk" or "I was angry" as an excuse.
Getting drunk is different as you chose to put yourself in that situation, I don't take their excuses either unless it's their first time ever being drunk. Anger is bad but much more controllable than "love" or "infatuation" whatever you want to call it. Pretty straightforward and easy to understand.
> You mentioned that you feel OP is some level of asshole a couple of comments back.
Was based on the "assumption" we previously agreed that we don't know either way so the point is moot.
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I'm guilty of text rambles too, so you're not alone. It's the beauty of Reddit having no character limit as opposed to Twitter.
I feel like it's a mix of both tradition and appeal. I mean, it's not like the west isn't guilty of this either. It's more common for women to date older men in every part of the world, so the writers are most likely just trying to appeal to their target audience.
If you've watched a typical anime aimed at this certain age range (doesn't matter the gender), you'll know that the world tends to be almost exclusively populated by teenagers and young adults in their 20s. The writers probably noticed that this is what sells, and thus have a limited age range on their characters.
Of course, this list doesn't have every single character ever. I just had the ones where we can pinpoint where they are. If I had characters with even more vague ages than Nikki, the gender barrier might not be as clear:
- Remember Landlady Lu Yinian from Chapter 7? She doesn't seem to be in her 20s, and if we find out her age (which is unlikely), the mean age of 18.45 wouldn't be that low.
- Nanari is explicitly stated to be older than Royce. Probably not by a lot, but we don't know how much exactly. Even if she was only 1 year older, she'd still be older than a male character and join Sofia in breaking the gender barrier.
- >!This one's more of a stretch, but I would not be surprised if Noah was the same age as Bobo.!<
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I agree with EasternEmbers, move along naturally. I like to look at certain discussions in stages. Here is a pretty good article about how discussions progress through a relationship.
https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/relationship-advice/relationship-stages/new-relationship-timeline/
The supplies of single middle-aged men and women may be the same, but the demand for single middle-aged women is not as great as it is for single middle-aged men. This may be because older men are prized for their financial stability/perceived maturity, whereas older women lack the single most societally important feminine attribute: youth. Single middle-aged men can more easily date women younger than themselves, aka single young women--or, at least, they seek out to date younger women. This leaves single middle-aged women without enough partners their own age. Just look at the statistics on how many older men date/prefer younger women vs. the other way around: https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/older-men-dating-younger-women/
You are so misguided.Face>everythign esle. And studies show that bad people are more attractive to women. Being a nice bloke is actually a net negative.
this might be a little weird, but have you thought about looking at other men's profiles for ideas?
If you do have some pics where you look a bit more natural/relaxed, I'm sure folks on here would be happy to give you input on those (myself included).
You could also look online for ideas: https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/online-dating-advice/online-dating-profile-tips/online-dating-profile-examples-for-men/
What does me being 22 have to do with anything? Well most women are blind to female nature so that's why they continue to live blue pilled. I've posted some good things to that sub reddit myself and most of it wasn't anecdote crap about an awful ex it's actual evidence of female nature and how women have it easy in this world. For example a woman can have sex with an underage boy and get house arrest, or community service or something like that. That's if she gets punished at all. Hell a woman even stabbed her boyfriend in the thigh with a knife which could have killed him and the judge didn't give her jail time and even said that has she been a man, he would have sent her to jail. Another woman attacked a bouncer in a night club and a police officer and was allowed to go on holiday before serving her time. I have plenty plenty more examples of women getting a slap on the wrist for serious crimes, which rarely ever happens for men. Let me guess you're going to mention Brock Turner now. That's one example, i can name a lot more examples of women getting a slap on the wrist to counter that 1 examples, and the Brock Turner case was about class and not gender.
The only evidence i have are studies that show that women prefer fucking bad boys. If that's not strong enough evidence then i don't know what is. https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-advice/dating-advice-women/why-do-girls-like-bad-boys-what-we-can-learn-from-the-science-of-attraction/
Hi there, a little about me. I'm an engineer in the TV industry. When I have free time I enjoy hanging out with family and friends, going to the beach or trips to Orlando and The Keys.. I am looking for a relationship but not wanting to run to the alter just yet.
looking for a GF on zoosk.. https://www.zoosk.com/personals/datecard/fdfa91ff1c567a28abecfade6954da07/about
Guys have to shootgun girls to get a few responses. Girls just have to sit back and do nothing.