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Many people in the small form factor PC arena already do this, me included. I have deshrouded my Gigabyte Gaming 3080 OC and replaced the stock fans with 3x NF-A9x25 fans controlled using the incredible FanControl software. Now my 3080 runs 10 degrees cooler and is utterly silent.
Sure, we don't have a full Noctua themed shroud, but most of us will 3D print our own shrouds to hold the fans in place, so kinda similar.
> Instead, I would propose the temperature calculation (for cooling / fan speed purposes) to be like this: > > Actual Temp in C + (100 - Load in percentage) * 0.1
Or just use Fan Control which is amazing software that allows you to set hysteresis and delay when you fans speed up among many other things.
Motherboards might not, but there is a nifty utility called FanControl that will let you assign any temperature sensor it can see to any fan it can control. There is also a plug-in that allows you to assign sensors that it can't see but HWiNFO can. I believe that it can see telemetry from *some* AIOs.
These fans made a massive difference to my Meshify 2 Compact case. I used them in conjunction with Fan Control software and my gpu temps when gaming dropped by a staggering 15°C! Because these are PWM fans I used the software to ramp up my case fan speed as my gpu junction temperature increases. Just make sure to set your curves to avoid the 900-1100rpm range because these fans tend to make a whirling noise at those rpms. Anyways, if you're looking for a way to control your case temps, cpu and gpu fan profiles then I highly recommend these fans and the Fan Control software. It's like SpeedFan but better. The github for the program is https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
Because the fan controller is expecting both fans, the card sees the missing fan on the second header as a fan failure and runs the card in emergency mode, which runs the functional fan at 100% all the time to try make up for the (assumed) non-functional fan.
Either connect to the motherboard and control using userspace software like the amazing and free FanControl, or get a second adapter and connect the second fan to the second port rather than splitting them both off the first port.
You can do that all with Fan Control and the hysteresis option it has built into it.
I've optimized all my fan curves and I very rarely notice my fans ramping up or down. My CPU is completely inaudible (5600X undervolted with a Fuma 2 cooling it) and my GPU is loud while gaming but at least it ramps up much nicer than the stepping it used to have.
You can even have your case exhaust fans ramp up with the temperature of your CPU. It's real nice.
I did this with my previous Gigabyte 2060 super.
I used the software FanControl to have them connected to the board but still use the graphics card temps as the trigger for a curve to regulate them. I struggled a lot to find something that did this as it was the only way it made sense for me. Lots would control the fans but based on some other temperature sensor that was not on the gfx card.
Fan Control is fucking brilliant, really simple even free, though the dev accepts and really deserves a beer or five.
You can use Fan Control for setting the fan curve, it allows you to use GPU temp as target for motherboard fan headers. https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
For connecting the fan to GPU headers, you can cut the connector to fit. It’ll work fine as long as you don’t damage the contact point and wire.
Use this: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
Been using it for a while and it's one of the few open source projects that I've donated to. Works flawlessly. I hope if it works for you, you can also consider sliding him a few bucks cause the alternative is speedfan which is dead
Was pretty straight forward, then again i been doing that for years.
The fans are plugged into the motherboard via a 3-way y-splitter, and controlled with FanControl https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
This allows you to select GPU as temperature source.
You should be able to change the your fan speed curves in BIOS.
In BIOS, while in Advanced Mode, pressing F6 should bring you to QFan Control, it's where you should be able to set a fan curve for your fans. You might need to change the AIO Pump Header and SYS Fan Headers to PWM mode first, and that can be done in "Monitor" Tab in the BIOS.
Software wise, ASUS has their own software called AISuite/FanXpert, if you are inclined to use their clunk.
Personally, I use a software called FanControl after setting the headers to all PWM in BIOS.
Hope that helps!
you just set the fan header in the bios to use PWM for 4 pin and DC for 3 pin fans, then you set a fan curve in the BIOS, this is not specific to any brand fan, it applies to all fans on every retail board (gl getting BIOS level fan control on a dell)
you can get software fan control using fancontrol, but you still need to set DC/PWM in your BIOS
A probe isn't going to give you an accurate GPU temp reading no matter where you place it.
Download https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases and use it to tie your fans into your GPU temps directly.
FanControl. Free and open source, and works amazingly well with significant customization available. You can use far more sensors than the bios will provide (including most GPUs), and even use mix curves which will take the highest (or average or minimum, your choice) of a group of curves. This is how I have mine set to respond to both the CPU and GPU for the case fans.
You'll still want a baseline configured in the bios that it will use during boot up, and fall back to should the app crash (has never happened for me, but it's possible).
As the others said, setting the radiator fans according to the water temp is the ideal solution.
CPU temp spikes very fast and goes down very fast, the temp change in the water is much more sluggish.
However, if you don't have a temp sensor header and don't want/can't buy something like the Aqua-Computer Quadro/Octo:
Use FanControl.
Is has basically the same extensive controlling options like the Quadro/Octo without the hardware. You could set up a sensor that mixes the temps of CPU and GPU. You can also add hysteresis to avoid that the fans are constantly spinning up & down due to sudden temp changes of CPU and GPU.
The result should be similar to controlling the radiator fans based on actual water temp.
if the replacement fans are not available taking the shroud off and zip tieing case fans to the card is a good solution, normally arctic F8 PWM fans are not expensive and are good fans, your card will use 3 slots as a result, but it will work just fine wire the fans to the motherboard and use fancontrol to make a fan curve
In that case there is negative air pressure with the only case airflow coming from the PSU and a NF-A9 exhaust fan, this pulls air in from everywhere, namely the front and bottom of the case as suck fresh air is pulled in to where the gpu is from the bottom of the case
I'm using this software to tie a case fan to my gpu temperature: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
It works really well, with a modern UI but you might want to watch a tutorial video as it has lots of options.
Could always try FanControl. It's free and open source.
It's possible that they still need to work out some controller bugs for the fan controllers on z690 boards, since it's still new, and may take a bios update to resolve. But it may be worth trying FanControl just in case it is an Argus issue, and you can then have more information for Argus support if it works normally with FanControl.
Go check this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/p104xa/x570ftpmsiv_error/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
"SIV uses the LPC bus to communicate with the BIOS, which is also the same bus that TPM & fTPM communication occurs on (and the debug display if equipped). Makes sense that they could interfere. SIV is cancer anyway, and is very easy to corrupt your Windows install when tuning using SIV, and if you need userspace fan control software, I recommend https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases. Way more powerful too."
Uninstalling SIV worked for me, u guys should try it !
there are 2 ways to do this, the easy/soft was and the hard/hardware way
- https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases (easy/soft)
- mod fan wires to split the PWM wire from the GPU fans to feed desired case fans so they run at the same fan % (hard/hardware)
5000G series APU? Have you updated the bios? This was a known issue that I thought was already resolved with a BIOS update.
If a bios update doesn't do the trick, then I'd recommend using FanControl instead of SIV, since you can base the curves off the Tctl/Tdie sensor instead of the board sensor value (which isn't correct on the APUs). That will at least give you functional userspace fan control.
FanControl. Free, open source, can control what SIV can and more (without the risk of it resetting the TPM all the time like SIV and Easy Tune are prone to doing). It can control most GPU fans as well, and you can use most sensors in the system including the GPU temp to base your fans off, which is great for case fans that may only affect the GPU. And there's a mix curve ability so you can combine multiple sub-curves and have it take the highest of those. It's slick. I use it on all my builds. I don't even bother with OEM fan control software at all.
Still you'll want to set a baseline in the BIOS because this is used during boot and in the very unlikely event the program should ever crash (which pops an error full screen, happened to me once about 8 months ago with Asus when waking from sleep, and the dev fixed it very quickly). It's never crashed on me or a client (that they've reported) other than that one resume from sleep issue in the 18 months I've been using it.
And again it's all open source and there's even a couple open source plug-ins you can install for it which can tap into like HWINFO's shared memory function (in the pro version, becuase the free version of HWINFO has it only enabled for 12 hours at a time, and doesn't start at boot so that's not ideal for basing fans off of if the sensor doesn't exist to the fan control software after 12 hours or on boot). But the HWINFO plug in is only needed for other sensors that may not be included in the motherboard's SuperIO chip output, like RAM temp sensors (that's what I use the plugin for personally because I've got OC'd b-die that's temp sensitive).
Fan Control is a good free alternative. Used Argus Monitor before this but already expired the period and start popping up notification to buy it. I mean, sure I can buy it but after trying Fan Control which is free and does the same, I rather just stick with the free one
It really depends on your use and your environment. My open air computer gets little to no dust. I basically use a can of compressed air to clean it once a week and it's very minimal. Just be sure to turn the computer off when you do it.
It's much easier to clean than my custom water looped computer at home.
As for noise, this is VERY dependent on your components, and settings. Also what you are doing. While I'm browsing the web, entering orders, talking on VOIP, and running 10 other business applications, my fans are barely running if at all. If i'm doing some video editing, and running my GPU, there is more fan noise, but it's not terrible. Odds are if you are running your computer hard where the fans need to spool up, you are probably listening to something while you do it so speakers and headphones would drown the noise out anyway.
As for controlling the thermals the way you like, I'm a big fan of this custom fan controlling software. Very customizable and user friendly.
Speedfan is outdated and can't control most modern boards properly so I agree that it's not recommended, but there's another free, and open source alternative to Argus Monitor that's absolutely amazing, FanControl. It does everything the last version of Argus Monitor I used does, and a whole lot more.
AI Suite has horrible uninstall routines... I should know. Many years ago I had to deal with that pile of junk and it was not fun at all tracking down and deleting (manually) all the files and registry settings it left behind. As mentioned the AISuite uninstaller program will help, but it too leaves a few things behind (way to go ASUS, nice try). All I can say is be diligent and careful and you can usually track down all the files it scatters everywhere.
As for fan control, I recently found this at majorgeeks.com, it's called FanControl by Rem0o and it has been a Godsend. He updates it quite regularly and it is very simple to setup and control. It runs in the background/tray as a scheduled task once you have set fan curves and you can store different profiles for different usage scenarios.
When I decided to upgrade from my Ryzen 1600x I realized I'd have to upgrade my motherboard, so why not do most of the computer too?
I moved to a Asrock B550 Phantom ITX board and a 5600x, then found a local deal for this Ghost S1 on r/hardwareswap. The spiderman decal was my addition.
Cool Things:
- Looks great, fits on top of my desk
- Case is solid and feels very sturdy
- Temps are great, way better than my full sized case. CPU sits at ~39C idle, GPU hangs out at ~41C
Less Cool Things:
- Building could be frustrating, I really should have had a magnetized torque, dropping screws while putting on the top hat was the worst thing.
- I have no idea how you're supposed to fit two 2.5" SSD's under the power supply. The plugs on the drive's power cables were right up against that middle plate in the case. Where the SATA ports are on the motherboard, I could only connect max 2 drives in theory, the top 2 are up against the side of the power supply.
- GPU clearance was a pain. Granted, I didn't check since I only have the one GPU and buying a new one isn't happening. But if I ever can upgrade that clearance is getting triple checked.
- I spent multiple hours troubleshooting why I wasn't getting video after it was all together. Only to find out I hadn't plugged in the GPU's power cable on the PSU side. Felt like a complete fool. Would have seen it earlier but I couldn't see it because of the other cables in the way.
For the Noctua's on the GPU, they're just zip tied to the mount points for the shroud. The fans are powered from a fan header on the motherboard, and I'm using https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases to set the fan curve based on GPU temps. The header on the GPU wouldn't fit the standard 4pin fan connector.
Yea, except the last part.
You have 3 headers on the top of your mobo, AIO_PUMP, CPU_FAN, and CPU_OPT.
Plug the pump into AIO_PUMP, plug one set of 3 fans into CPU_FAN, and the other set into CPU_OPT. CPU_OPT is not independently controlled, it is slaved to CPU_FAN. So whatever RPM you set CPU_FAN to, CPU_OPT will mirror it.
Then you can build a fan curve using Asus Q-fan control in BIOS, or FanControl in Windows. I would recommend against Asus Fan Xpert software.
Check this software out- https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
You can get really detailed custom fan settings, like for example setting a max change rate of 1% fan speed per second, or time delayed fan ramping, etc. The max rate of change would probably fix a lot of the problem you have.
There's no direct competition that will provide the exact same interface. As long as the AIO has standard PWM or DC control for the pump and fans (ie it's not USB controlled for the pump), you can run from the motherboard headers, set a base curve in the bios, and then use smart fan or alternative userspace fan software like the free and open source FanControl to control the pump and fan speeds.
Peltier cooling an enclosure is a terrible idea:
- Moving 1 watt of heat requires 1 watt of energy input, so you actually get 2 watts of heat output for every 1 watt of cooling. If you thought a PC was a space heater before, this roughly doubles the heat output (and actually more than doubles, since your enclosure won't perfectly isolate the outside from the inside).
- You have to provide that power to the Peltier elements and do all the required wiring.
- You have to acquire or build an enclosure.
- You have to feed wires through it.
- You have to make it soundproof.
- You have to install the Peltier elements so that they connect the inside and the outside of the enclosure thermally but not acoustically.
- You have to circulate heat generated inside to the Peltier elements. This means adding heatsinks and fans to the Peltier elements, which increases size, cost, weight, and effort.
That's a lot of extra hardware and effort just to end up with a solution that is basically a space heater on low to medium. It's SO much cheaper and easier to build a quiet PC and throw FanControl on it.
I put Noctua fans in my rigs and they are perfect for my racked application. In conjunction with FanControl (https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases). Found that bit of software while looking for a SpeedFan alternative.
depending on what fans you are using, if its 4 pin make sure the bios has those headers set to pwm mode, if it's 3 pin set it to dc mode.
as for controlling the fans, i use https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases, i set my pump to 100% and have my fans change speed based on gpu temp since my 8700k never gets warm enough for the fans to ramp up
This is easily the best fan curve software out there, consistently updated, intuitive UI, lots of features (like setting your curves to GPU temp rather than CPU if you'd like)
Yeeeah, I've had to spend a lot of time and money to make my PC quiet.
Well worth it, though.
Make sure to download Fan Control to control the fans. It's by far the best program for that purpose.
This. You could also play with curves a bit to see if you can find an optimal speed/noise/temp balance. I’d recommend Fan Control. Very granular control, intuitive, consistently updated, tons of functionality.
Internet is full of descriptions of why the loop connect does not work. And I stress, does not work. I got error message saying that it wont connect to the piece of hardware. Talked to support, and got some basic solutions and it just is what it is atm, they say they are working on it, but then I found this free software that gives much better control for my fans and pump than that garbage loop connect software did: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases no need to even install anything, just download zip and run .exe file. I tried to use it only to manage my LED's but the options there are ridiculous even the half an hour that it works, so I bought Razer LED controller that gives such control over ARGB that probably EK-Connect will never give you... So.. at this moment in time, don't waste your money on it, it won't even start up.
Ya I remember that lol. Thanks for responding to both. Sure the software I used was called Argus monitor but I don’t reccomend as it needs a monthly subscription. I got reccomend a piece of software called fan control that can control all fans in your pc.fan control
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
My PC stays relatively silent without the fans suddenly going full speed when I do something simple.
I am sharing what worked for me, YMMV, use at your own risk. I am not available for application support.
In hwinfo and gpuz keep an eye on both the rpm and fan speed % if you see a rpm and a % that do not match the issue is the fan itself if you do not have a issue is the the driver being silly with fan control, so using something like fancontrol could work around it
Hi, I ended up connecting those 2 fans on the card along with other case fans to a motherboard fan header, so I can't offer any insight there, sorry. Using Argus Monitor (paid software, I have seen Fan Control being recommended as a free alternative), I can control fan speed using GPU temp so I didn't feel the need to use the fan header on the card!
The card should automatically turn the fans on when it reaches a set temperature. If the fans aren't spinning, that means it's at a safe temperature.
If you do want to set custom fan curves, I suggest not using afterburner, but instead, the superior Fan Control app by Remi Mercier. It's much more lightweight, less resource intensive, doesn't look like it was designed for a 12-year-old and you can set a target fan speed for idle and a faster speed for when its in use.
RGB fusion is pretty awful. Why does it have to be so janky? Just create a simple, clean, lightweight app that lets me configure the LCD on my Aorus Master without piles of bloat. It's like these hardware companies hire the most kludgeworthy and hacky programmers to stitch together such poor software on purpose. A good developer could write something that uses half as much system resources with a clean and simple interface. Like, take a look at this fan control app. It's freakin' open source freeware and does a better job than all these bloaty garbage "gamer" apps. Ever think of paying this guy to adapt his tool for you, Gigabyte? It would probably cost you less in the long run and earn you accolades for finally being a hardware company that doesn't ship junkware with their great hardware. Not every person who buys motherboards and graphics cards is a 12-year-old. I don't want dragons, flames, or huge UIs that look like what I did in PhotoShop in 2003 or a Winamp skin. It's almost embarrassing to open these apps for the first time and see how low-effort and cheesy they are. C'mon.
I was just researching the same issue and I found this free alternative to Argus Monitor: GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases: This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.
Seems to work pretty well so far for me
The EK can not see water temps. I think it is unnecessary for aios. If your fan curve is set right you should not hear it spin up. I use https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
It lets me choose how quickly and how much the fans change by. Right now I am using the same artic p12 and hear no loud spin ups.
Tried looking for folders called MSI in Program Files (x86) and Program Data (a hidden folder) and delete them manually in Windows Explorer?
Pretty sure standard uninstall leaves crap behind. Then rerun the installer in admin mode, something is definitely blocking connection to a host.
As for all those QoL things, Dragon centre is not great, I only have it for Mystic Light.
User scenario is just windows power management profiles and I control those from the taskbar with a freeware program.
Monitoring again controlled better with freeware (rainmeter and hwinfo)
Fan control again freeware app called fan control partnered with libre hardware monitor that gives control instead of just click for best config:
Gaming Mode sucks, can't even scan your PC or common folders.
I'm new to MSI and although according to reviews their motherboards are pretty much best in class, they suck bad at other stuff. Jeez even my BIOS has a spelling mistake.
Afterburner and Dragon Centre are chalk and cheese, I think most stuff that uses Universal Windows Platform is utter garbage not just Dragon Centre
You might be interested in a utility called "FanControl" - it offers very configurable control over fan speeds, and you can link any sensor it recognizes to any fan or group of fans.
I have 3 fan zones in my case (plus cpu). Front (3 fans), rear (1 fan), and top (2 fans). I have each zone connected to a single fan header. For the front and top zones the fans are connected with a 4 pin splitter.
I would stay away from dragon center at all costs.
You will need to go into your bios make sure the connected fan headers are set to pwm - on my x570 tomahawk all but cpu defaults to dc.
Once you do this, you can set the fan profiles in the bios. But, better yet, download the free fan control software and set up your fan profiles there.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
You will likely need to flash your bios for 5xxxX support. Easy to do with the flashback method. Just make sure you are using a usb 2.0 key. Fat32 with mbr partition.
Here you go fancontrol
When I found this I immediatly sent a few beers to the guy through paypal and even sent him an email thanking lol
I had the same reaction as yourself 😄 since I have a custom loop for cpu and gpu, but... my gpu has a custom block on it, so I needed this to make it a 100% perfect experience.
I’m using Fan Control, which after experimentation I’ve found to be the best by far. Only downside is that it doesn’t run as a service.
It can do exactly what you’re after and much, much more.
Afterburner is not active for me usually as I am using https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases for a system wide fan control, so I do not think there is anything special.
Core clock +0, Mem clock +0, power limit 100%, temp limit 83°C gets shown when I start afterburner.
I just thought that MSI is maybe using their best gpus for the gaming x variants and sells the less good ones as ventus. So maybe the default gaming x clock is too much for your ventus?
Look into Argus Monitor (Paid) or FanControl (forum post, github) (Free ~~and Open Source~~). Either will allow you to set the speed of your case fans that are plugged into your motherboard based on the GPU temp (among many other options).
Edit: formatting, correction
I didn't even uninstall Argus -- just stopped it from starting/running and everything is rock solid (again). I had a bit of a scare because one crash occurred during disk access and so my system drive got corrupted (chkdsk fixed it), and another crash led to a persistent CPU speed of 547MHz even after reboot. I unplugged the PC for 1 minute (to reset the mobo) and then restarted and all was back to normal.
I've gone back to using AI Suite 3. Except for my AIO 360 I can lower fan speeds to 0 if I want (for some fans there is a tick box in the lower left corner of the fan curve screen that needs to be ticked (forgotten exactly what it says) to allow 0.
I was going try either FanControl (https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases) or HWiNFO when I have a chance.
Not sure if you are still looking after all this time. I tried a bunch of different ones, until finally found one that works:
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
There's a learning curve, and I'm still trying to figure out the right profile.
I tried a bunch of different ones, until finally found one that works:
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
There's a learning curve, and I'm still trying to figure out the right profile.
SpeedFan ist für mich raus seit der Anti-Cheat Dienst von The Crew 2 es als Cheatmöglichkeit ansieht (der Treiber erlaubt anderen Programmen ins System einzugreifen, was ggf. auch eine Sicherheitslücke ist). Freie und noch recht neue Alternative für mich ist FanControl, allerdings nicht gerade sparsam bzgl. RAM.
I always use Fan Control (https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases) - had much better mileage with it. All other software I ever used usually had problems with some of the sensors or some of the fans etc. This one was quick, painless and got all the options for fan curves I'd ever want.
I recommend Fan Control ... smooth out all of your fans and no more loudness when you open a browser tab for a quick burst of heat.
my 5950/3080 system is largely/relatively quiet even at load with 9x120 and GPU fans (3080FTW3)
I use this to control my fans, and it is pretty much the best fan control software I've ever used. Lightweight, custom curves, combined curves, different temp sources, etc.
I have 10 fans myself. 6 fans are run off of 1 Mobo header, but I supply power via Molex, 3 external fans are off another Mobo header but also powered separately, and 1 fan via Mobo header. All runs via FanControl: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
One of the first thing I tried is Aura Sync as well but it didn't work on my Z690 board. Looks like since the Z690 is brand new, and Aura Sync hasn't been updated separately in a while it doesn't get detected at all. Pure Aura Sync is your best bet if it works for you.
For fan control, BIOS is good but if you want to control them from Windows, and go beyond the features in Windows there is only one app to consider - FanControl. https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
You can set curves, simple and easy to use, automatic optimisation profiles and most importantly, you can assign more than one sensor to your fan control. For example, you can make your case fans ramp up if the GPU is getting hotter, not just the CPU. Quite useful for gaming, especially with an AIO which will keep the CPU cool.
I'm still using my motherboard fan header from an abundance of laziness to remove and mod the fan adapter.
With that said, I am using Fan Control to control my fans (even before modding). I find it much easier to use than MSI AB for fan curves especially since I use it for my AIO fans as well.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
This is another great option, and it's free and open source, unlike Argus Monitor. That's what I use on almost all my client and personal builds for fan control, simply because SIV is very limited in its abilities.
I kept those programs uninstalled even for normal use, SIV might seem useful but fancontrol is much lighter and does things more accurately when set up properly. Moreover rgbfusion is full of bloatware as it installs and keeps running all drivers for every compatible component of other brands (eg. even if you don't have RGB ram, it installs the drivers and keeps a running app polling for one)
Das "Standard" Programm dafür war jahrelang SpeedFan, wird aber seit 2016 nicht mehr gepflegt und ist mit aktueller Hardware nur bedingt einsetzbar. Benutze seit geraumer Zeit FanControl . Funktioniert sehr gut und die Bedienung ist sehr intuitiv.
Set the fan curves and see how quiet I can get the system at idle. Then see what the fan speeds can keep the temps around 70c while gaming.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
If you have a variable refresh rate monitor then also the optimized settings for it.
https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/14
Your temps look fine.
In the bios I also enable :
PSS Support, Global c-state, Psu Idle lower Power, and enabled CPPC (two settings).
also SAM
I also use this open software for my fans - totally recommend it
Take a look at this: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases This should be able to control any fan plugged into your motherboard (including stock going fans) and can be set up with curves from any temp sensor (also including your gpu).
The BIOS is still bugged with the temp sensor for the 5000G APUs. Normally the Tctl/Tdie temp sensor from the CPU itself is mapped by Gigabyte to the CPU temp port on the SuperIO chip, but for some reason this isn't reliable on the 5000G series and frequently gets stuck.
The only workaround I've found is to use a 3rd party fan control software like Argus Monitor (paid) or the amazing FanControl which is free and open source (and what I use on all my builds).
FanControl or Argus will allow you to set your fan curve to respond directly to the Tctl/Tdie sensor from the CPU itself, not being limited to the CPU channel of the SuperIO chip, which isn't being fed accurate data at all times on the 5000G series. It's a far more capable and customizable fan control alternative to SIV. Make sure to uninstall SIV, because it can conflict with other userspace fan control software.
Then the BIOS curves would only be used during bootup, and once in the OS, FanControl (or Argus) would be in control.
Io uso Fan Control, puoi:
- controllare ogni singola ventola separatamente
- creare grafici con l'andamento della velocità e combinarli assieme
- prendere come riferimento della temperatura anche altri sensori oltre alla CPU (GPU, SSD, ecc.)
- molte impostazioni (es. offset, aumento al secondo, minima variazione di temperatura per cambiare velocità, ecc.)
I use fancontrol for all my fans in my regular PC, don't know if it'll work on laptops but you can give it a try.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/blob/master/Images/MainUI.png?raw=true
Try this:
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
It lets you set fan curves that mix multiple temp sensors, including sensors on GPUs.
You'll have to move your cpu fan off of the hub and plug it in directly to the cpu fan header, and move your hub to one of the system fan headers.
I did the same, bought an nzxt fan controller to control case fans according to gpu temps, but before it arrived I discovered Fan Control
It doesn't help you if you have only one system fan header, but otherwise it's a much more powerful and lightweight fan controller software than any manufacturer's bloated thing, and can control most modern hardware too, even gpu fans. I set it up in a way to mix cpu and gpu curves so the case fans match the higher running one.
Some motherboards have a dedicated pump header for AIOs that run at 100% all the time, make sure you are not connecting your fans there. If you are plugged into a fan header, are you using a hub or a splitter? are they all connected by a 4 pin connector? make sure there is good contact on all the pins especially the 4th pin, otherwise those fans would just work like voltage controlled fans.
You can also try to use this program:
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
This can over-ride any mobo settings and lets you set your own custom fan curve using any of the sensors it detects on your system (example: you can set case fans to change speed with your gpu temps instead of case/cpu temps).
You can let it autodetect all the fans on your system or you can manually set the fan speed. If changing fan speed percentages does nothing then maybe the header itself is problematic or its one of those weird non-standard 4pin headers (gigabyte has stupid fan headers like this).
Sorry. There has been a program called fan control around for years. It recently went the way of the dodo bird. Well a brilliant programmer started a new GitHub project to give Windows users advanced control of their fans using open source libraries to read sensors. I don’t think he thought it would be a big hit otherwise he would have picked a name different from the original. It’s free but I donated because I like it so much. You can use it with HWinfo 64 or stand alone. When I first stated using it a person had to really have some knowledge to get it right. Now he has really updated it to fit other levels of users. The level of control is amazing. The best part of it is that it doesn’t “install” itself. It runs without registry modifications at all. You will need to go into the bios and turn off any native fan control support the MOBO has. Even without Armory Crap the MOBO has a base fan control curve. Now when you turn that off the MOBO by default sets all the fans to 100 percent until you log on. Once you do and the program launches it the fans settle down to your setting. Now if for some reason the fan control stops working or crashed the machine will default back to 100% fan speed for safely. Here is the link.
1) Yes, this can be done with by editing the fan curve in the BIOS, or using userspace fan control software like the amazing (and free/open source) FanControl.
Gigabyte also has SIV, but it's really limited and not tremendously reliable. FanControl is WAY better and is far more customizable, including the ability to use GPU temp and many other sensors that the BIOS and SIV do not, and the ability to set "mix" curves, where you can combine multiple sub curves and have it take the maximum or average of the two.
This, for example, allows setting case fans to respond to either the CPU or GPU, whichever is higher, and even have different curves for both devices, so it can ramp up more quickly for GPU heat and slower for CPU, or vice versa. Great program.
2) Not as far as I know. I believe it's only compatible with the new Realtek Audio Console UWP app. I don't believe any of the legacy versions will work, but you can search for other gigabyte boards with the same audio codec chip and see if you can find an old version, and try it. At worst, it doesn't work.
My hybrid 980 ti was much quieter once I plugged the pump and fan into a motherboard header.
From there you can limit the pump from running full speed constantly with this git hub program.
You can prolong the life of those pumps by plugging them into a water-pump header on the motherboard and running them at a lower speed.
Then with this. https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
You can change the settings for different headers to monitor GPU temps.
Although I've seen that SIV is generally considered good for fan control, it didn't do near enough for me, I use Fan Control https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases and haven't touched SIV since.
FanControl is superior to anything provided by Gigabyte. I used SIV, and it's just okay. It's mostly just an extension of what you can do in the BIOS. With FanControl, you can make fan curves with as many control points as you want, and you can even combine sensor data with max, min, average, and subtract.
Also, it might be necessary for anyone running XMP with 3600 or greater RAM on that board. I have a kit of 4000, and the CPU temperature sensor gets stuck with XMP on (TMPIN2 in HWMonitor). Thankfully, Tdie/Tctl still functions normally, and it's super simple to just tie your fan curves to that sensor instead.
Edit: Also, Gigabyte App Center will sneakily try to install Norton products when you update any installed apps through that interface. Avoid at all costs.
For the most part these days, if you're plugging your fans into the mobo, it's best to use their software.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases also exists as a general solution, but it may not support every function your mobo does.
SpeedFan used to be the old go-to but it hasn't been updated since 2015 and typically doesn't work well with newer hardware due to that.
If you want more control than what those offer, you'd really be looking at a separate fan controller like the Corsair Commander Pro, or my personal recommendation the AquaComputer Quadro (or Octo).
The system 1 sensor is useless. It's measuring from a random spot on the motherboard, and GPU exhaust can affect the temp significantly.
I personally just set all my fans to respond to the CPU in the BIOS, with a baseline curve used for booting and fallback, and then use FanControl in Windows to set my fan curves in userspace since that software is extremely powerful, with far more sensors included, even GPU temps. Plus the ability to set "mix" curves, which can take the highest of 2 or more curves. I use this to have my case fans respond to my GPU temps, CPU and drive temps, with different graph curves for each, so that if one component gets too hot, that curve takes priority.
Then the bios curves would only be used during boot up and should the software ever crash. But in the 18+ months I've been using it, there was only one version that had any crashing and only with Asus AMD boards when resuming from sleep, and it was fixed quickly. Plus any crashes pop an error in the foreground, plus you'll hear the fan speed change as it drops back to your bios curve. But I only mention the crash to indicate that it's extremely reliable, but you still have backup just in case it should ever happen.
Pretty sure this is what current top comment is running into
I use fan control to play with fan curves and control the curve as a function of max(cpu temp, gpu temp). Its pretty easy to jump over the range that has the humming
No matter what you pick, apply some heuristics to your fans to keep them from going crazy when you open a new window or activate right click menu.
I use Fan Control
If you want userspace fan control, my recommendation is FanControl. Free, open source, and way more configurable than SIV.
Make sure to set a baseline in the BIOS, since that will be used during boot and before logging into the OS.
without hacking the vbios (not recommended) you have to use addition software, though if you do not count radeon settings as addition software you can for amd gpus, otherwise i suggest using fancontrol
This is one of the best fan controller softwares I've ever used and it's free: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
Give it a go, I use it to control the bottom and top fans on a combination of the CPU and GPU temperatures. It's very flexible, but you have to spend a bit of time to figure out how it works. Still very intuitive.
You can't monitor the rpm of multiple fans plugged into a single fan header. A PWM fan splitter will often return the RPM of 1 fan.
Idk what you're looking for with rpm/temps based on what programs are running. Odd request, not sure what you're trying to actieve. If the system's hot, run the fans more. Doesn't matter if it's because you're watching 8k yt or playing a game. If you want more aggressive fans when playing a game, try before mentioned fan controller, create a 2nd profile and switch to it when gaming.
FanControl with HWInfo64 add-in works well for me to control my fans and pump based on coolant sensor temp. You can make time-averaged readings and make all sorts of curves and even adjust the ramp up/down speeds. Extremely useful, it replaced Argus in my system.
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
HWInfo can read the motherboard temp sensor and then FanControl can use it as an input. if you load the add-in and enable "Share Memory Support" in HWInfo settings.
You might just need to disable monitoring on most of the sensors in HWInfo since I've found FanControl loses connection to HWInfo if too many sensors are running. Currently my HWInfo is monitoring only 15 sensors and it's not having issues.
Also make sure to use HWInfo older than V7.xx since from V7 they've made "Share Memory Support" a paid feature.
I ended up fixing the problem by using FanControl off Github. The useability of that software is infinitely better than the hot garbage Gigabyte created. If anyone comes across this in the future, ditch AppCenter and SIV. Just download FanControl and set your curves to whatever your heart desires.
See what the noise is coming from, it would probably be the gpu, since 2x 360 radiators could damn near cool that cpu without fans at all. I would advise checking this out for detailed fan curve settings- https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
Ive dropped afterburner for fan curves, there are better options.
Get fan control off GitHub, its great, way more options for fine tuning. And much more user friendly.
I recommend you Fan Control, I use it for creating custom fan curves. If the issue you're having is a sudden change in fan speed, this would fix it easily.
Indeed! My favorite is the free and open source FanControl. It is extremely customizable and supports most major sensors including the CPU telemetry and most GPUs, plus in many cases storage and chipset temps as well.
Seems like a bios bug as I've been seeing this over and over for the Cezanne APUs. And until they can build new bios versions again, there won't be any progress. They still can't build new bioses after the ransomware attack that caused major disruption and the whole AMI bios repo was encrypted by the attackers.
Maybe try using FanControl in the mean time? It's entirely userspace, so it runs within Windows and you can run any fan off any sensor you wish, including the CPU telemetry like Tctl/tdie which will hopefully eliminate the problem with the CPU package temp sensor (which is external to the CPU) getting stuck since you won't use this for control.
It's also a super powerful program that allows for far more detailed fan control than even SIV, since you can use just about any sensor as a temp source, and even do things like mixed curves where you can take the average or max of 2 or more sub-curves.
If you want a decent fan control software for windows check this out:
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
Also helpful: https://www.stelareum.io/en/mining/gpu.html
I highly recommend you check out FanControl. It's software that lets you fully customize your fan curves just the way you want them. https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
I use a stepped method where I set fan speed at different levels for different temp ranges, so like 40% at idle up to 49c then 60% from 50-65c (typical gaming temps) then above that goes to 100%. This avoids all the fan speed ramping up and down issues. Of course you will have to find your own fan speed / temp levels.
I have no idea if it will support the SuperIO chip used in these laptops, but you could always try using the free (and amazing on desktop) app FanControl. I can't guarantee it will work, but it is worth a shot. It's super powerful on desktop and can control system and Nvidia fans, but I'm not sure about with the laptop. I'm not a laptop builder and rarely service them anymore so I'm not sure if it will have all the sensors or even be able to control the fans. You'd have to try it. But if it works, that would be a great way to manage fan curves without using the malignant tumor that is Control Center (Centre).
I've never had it screw up a Windows install. But RGB doesn't place nice with other vendors' RGB, so the HALs often battle it out behind the scenes, which leads to errors and problems. I'm sure that your original issue was due to all the Asus stuff as you posited.
RGBf it's up to you, if you need it, try it. But if not, just uninstall.
Also for fans, you can use the awesome free app FanControl instead of SIV, which actually CAN corrupt your Windows install if you use any of the other tuning features besides the fans. Note that it doesn't seem to be picking up GPU Temps for AMD GPUs right now, so if you've got an AMD GPU you won't be able to use it as a sensor (not that SIV allows that anyway), but if Nvidia it will be fully supported.
I highly recommend the FanControl software to set custom curves. Its gives you an incredible amount of control and lets you base the fan curves off a variety of temp sensors.
Its free, easy to setup, and has a great GUI. https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
SIV uses the LPC bus to communicate with the BIOS, which is also the same bus that TPM & fTPM communication occurs on (and the debug display if equipped). Makes sense that they could interfere. SIV is cancer anyway, and is very easy to corrupt your Windows install when tuning using SIV, and if you need userspace fan control software, I recommend https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases. Way more powerful too.